What are CS majors going to do...

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Anonymous wrote:They need to know the ai

Sure, but what took 5 or 10 CS majors before will take 1 today. That's the point of this.

NP. I agree but viewed more as weeding out the C students or those that got their CS degree from Liberty.

Go through this forum and you'll see the vast majority of parents saying their kids are CS majors with stellar stats. The C student in a CS major have already pivoted, most likely. I'm trying to understand why the A students in high school are still applying to CS and why the A students in college in CS haven't pivoted already.

Because they enjoy it? Mine does at least. Has been able to secure internships and received a FT offer to forgo his senior year at UMD (he's not taking the offer).

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of the rich kids/private schools have almost totally abandoned the CS path already.

Are you talking about private HS? Your comment really doesn’t make much sense.

BTW everyone…all these AI companies getting billions in funding as well as all the Y Combinator companies getting funded as we speak are like 90% founded by either CS majors or kids with extensive CS backgrounds.

Sure, if your kid has an idea and wants to get a CS degree to become a tech entreprenuer, fine. But for the masses, that's not the case.

https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/2021256989876109403

And for those living under a rock, now build some single Google searches around that post and keyword like Claude Code, ChatGPT Codex, etc., and it'll help you reformulate your idea of the potential cliff ahead for the tens of thousands of kids going into CS or currently enrolled in CS. Listen to heads of MBB, GS, Citadel talk about their hiring needs and it'll give you a good idea of how the landscape is shifting. We're in that moment of time where factory workers were slowly replaced and jobs dried up. As parents, sitting under a rock isn't really a good idea at this time. For the people in tech, to say it's "not a big deal" tells me that you're also very unaware, when every single tech C-suite person out there is saying how they're replacing the coding jobs (the primary entry for CS majors into a tech company) with AI. For the amount of scrutiny that this particular forum places on getting into the elite schools and programs around the country, it's a little baffling to see such utter ignorance on the subject.

AI slop is also real, and they still need people. The definition of "entry level" has changed, but there are still jobs out there. Every time there is a tech revolution the job market contracts in one area, then expands in another.

And people in tech are more aware of how AI is used in the tech industry than some random poster on here who reads too many doom and gloom articles.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1314176.page

-signed someone who has worked in tech for 20+ years.

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Anonymous wrote:Manager at a tech firm here. It will be fine. AI is a useful tool, but it's not a solution. It makes software developers more efficient, but doesn't take their place.

This.

And as with any degree, CS students should be taking rigorous CS upper level electives (examples: compilers, real-time/embedded systems, operating systems internals). Learn Linux. Learn to use command-line tools and emacs/vi, not just a GUI IDE.

The folks impacted by AI will be those who took easier electives (examples: web programming, scripting).

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My 2024:CS grad was hired out of school with a salary of approx 180k. He knows he may get fired. He is saving all he can right now and will figure out next steps when he needs to. Seems silly to not make the most of the current situation.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2024:CS grad was hired out of school with a salary of approx 180k. He knows he may get fired. He is saving all he can right now and will figure out next steps when he needs to. Seems silly to not make the most of the current situation.

I guess therein lies the question. If you know it's a declining field, why go into it? Totally understand the "redefining need" comment but redefining means fully rescoping how many kids are going into the field in the first place. Anyway, guess when kids run into the unemployment wall, then it'll be the wake up call. Hopefully, kids have a back up plan that works out.

To the tech worker poster who identified the IBM article. Follow up on that and you'll how the number of jobs in the US compare to the number of job postings in India. So sure, if your kid wants to move to India and tries to apply from here, no problem! But whatever, live under the rock that you're accustomed to living under.

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My 2026 CS grad will start his career in a job that pays $460K. Like a prior poster he is planning to save big time. His friend group has decided to take the GMAT, apply for an MBA and defer any admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:First off, what is AI doing besides sorting through natural language and patching together words and numbers? Thats it.

AI is exceptional at coding and programming, which is eliminating jobs for new CS grads. If you’d like to catch up up, there’s a ton out there summarizing the state of affairs. Including this:

The Computer Science Bubble is Bursting

https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/06/computer-science-bubble-ai/683242/?gift=W1EZ6nF_0Pz_BkLDXD99Abzy0VOdRS2D1Xcon3RsQfc

Here’s some advice:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcollins/2025/12/15/computer-science-grads-arent-landing-high-paying-jobs-but-dont-trash-those-degrees-yet/

Not seeing what you are talking about at my kid's school

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Don't forget the jobs are outsourced to India, Philippines, E. Europe - anywhere with english language skills and lower wages. We need employees in the trades, healthcare and farming.

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Soon the takeover by our robot overlords will be complete. We won’t even be able to unplug them because nobody will know how to do anything without AI in another generation.

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I’m in IT. The number of software developers required will drop substantially. But there is much more to CS than software development. Still need cybersecurity, networking, data analytics… They will see smaller drop.

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What are any major going to do...

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It seems like every CS major, or the parent of one, on this forum is the exception.

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I can't help but think AI is a bubble. I'm seeing our management cook the books, boasting about how AI is cutting costs, their data is fake. The project teams using AI are putting out buggy codes that they don't know how to fix.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2024:CS grad was hired out of school with a salary of approx 180k. He knows he may get fired. He is saving all he can right now and will figure out next steps when he needs to. Seems silly to not make the most of the current situation.

I guess therein lies the question. If you know it's a declining field, why go into it? Totally understand the "redefining need" comment but redefining means fully rescoping how many kids are going into the field in the first place. Anyway, guess when kids run into the unemployment wall, then it'll be the wake up call. Hopefully, kids have a back up plan that works out.

To the tech worker poster who identified the IBM article. Follow up on that and you'll how the number of jobs in the US compare to the number of job postings in India. So sure, if your kid wants to move to India and tries to apply from here, no problem! But whatever, live under the rock that you're accustomed to living under.

The jobs in India are mostly low level, and this has been happening for decades.

I'm that PP and have worked in tech for 20+ years in Silicon Valley. Have you ever worked in the tech field? For how long?

And my kid had 5 internship offers for the summer. The one they chose is paying them $96/hour with 20K signing bonus. I realize they aren't the norm, but even their friends who aren't getting these top CS internships are getting internships that pay $60hour.

Are there layoffs, yes. As stated, the landscape is changing and younger people are in a better position to pivot than older workers.

When I started out in tech I picked a hot field for that time and was able to make a lot. That field is now dying and being replaced by new tech. That's how the tech industry works.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't help but think AI is a bubble. I'm seeing our management cook the books, boasting about how AI is cutting costs, their data is fake. The project teams using AI are putting out buggy codes that they don't know how to fix.

Yes. AI can be helpful but it's being over hyped right now. Execs are exaggerating how much AI is really being utilized because it makes their company look more cutting edge than their competitors.

Is it used? Yes. Is it replacing most of the jobs. No.

The reason there have been so many layoffs in the past year is because tech companies over hired during covid. IBM (I'll use that example again) stayed lean, but now they are hiring like crazy.