Red Pill Incel vs Volunatary submissive males

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OP even understands what these two things are. They aren’t remotely similar.

An incel is a man who considers themselves “involuntarily celibate.” They believe themselves to be masters of sexual prowess and they’re being unfairly denied. They lack self-awareness about how they’re fundamentally unattractive for whatever reason (looks, status, money, social skills) and as a result are Big Mad about this and think women owe it to them to have sex. Because of the natural order of things, or something. They adopt Red Pill stuff and cosplay as macho and alphas but in reality are pathetic betas.

Cucks are the complete opposite. For one thing, they’re partnered. And they’re getting laid. It’s a sexual kink — they’re voyeurs only they want to watch their wives or partners have sex with another man, typically a well-hung black one (a “bull” in the fetish nomenclature). Then — and this is key to the fantasy — they “reclaim” her. They get “sloppy seconds.” Gross, I know, and it’s hard to know how real this is versus just a porn subgenre like stepmoms having stepsons. But that’s the genre.

Thing is, incels are by and large stupid. It’s one of the many reasons they can’t get laid. And in their weird little, whiny subculture, they have somehow deduced that a cuck is simply a guy who can’t control his woman (they are big on controlling women, even though none have ever had one, as this controlling attitude is another huge turn-off) is a “cuck.” Any man who in any way acts subservient or deferential to a woman is, to them, a “cuck.” They think this is some huge insult.

And in their weird little echo chamber, it is. But the rest of the real world, which just regards incels as Big Mad Pouty Young Men and really has no understanding or awareness of cuckolding, it’s not. It’s just another weird, fringe term these losers who can’t get laid hurl at each other between Grindr meetups.

So my guess is OP, who doesn’t seem particularly smart, is an incel. Whether or not he gets his dick wet on Grindr is for another thread.

I disagree. I think that incels are below average mad that women won't worship them and lust after them like they do more attractive and successful men. They want women to lower their standards to them.

While I think cucks are far better than incels, they have to acknowledge their faults, and they sexualize them, but in return are more successful with women. For one, because they arent blaming women. The fact they take pleasure out of letting their partner explore, is a much more evolved and emotionally mature state.

An incel would be a terrible husband because he hates women. A cuck would be a great husband because he puts their partners needs above their own.

No. A man who puts his partner’s needs above his own is a man who picks up the kids from daycare and gets dinner started so that his wife can go to the gym after work. Then does the dishes after dinner and makes her tea while she puts the kids to bed so that they can both get some sleep.

It’s NOT a guy who spends his evenings fantasizing about his wife sleeping with other men while he watches or trying to make that happen.

There is no right or wrong way to the dynamic if it works for the couple, and they're happy with it. Yes cuckolds want their wives to have sex with other men as part of their fantasy, but they also want the women to enjoy it. And most circumstances, its the woman leading and choosing how and with who, unless she specifically wants her cuck to be the person picking.

Also, there's misinformation saying that the cuck has to watch. Most want to, but it's also common for them to stay home with the kids, cleaning the house, focusing on other hobbies, while she is enjoying herself.

The utmost part is that the cuckold does want their wife to be happy. It's called Compersion. If she wants to take a nap, a real cuckold would whatever made that nap better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

Literally 0 people are saying that every woman is looking to have sex with random men. Please learn to read before you respond, this is painful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

1/100,000 = 700ish people. It's more like 7000. 1/10,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

1/100,000 = 700ish people. It's more like 7000. 1/10,000

I think I know why you can't get laid, anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

1/100,000 = 700ish people. It's more like 7000. 1/10,000

I think I know why you can't get laid, anyway.

Feel free to project.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

Yes, you are trolling. How dumb do you think we are, jesus christ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

I don't think anyone is saying that is what all women want. Is it hard for you to believe some women want more partners than their husband? It's a one sided polyamarous relationship. I don't think it's for most people, but if it works for others why should I care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

1/100,000 = 700ish people. It's more like 7000. 1/10,000

I think I know why you can't get laid, anyway.

Feel free to project.

More of your conversation would infect my brain, you three-inch fool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

As has already been explained to you, they have nothing in common. Your premise, bolded, is fundamentally wrong.

The female counterpart to a cuckold is called a "hotwife." Again, this is a pornography genre/construct. It's not some widespread phenomenon IRL. It's not even a limited phenomenon. It's not even a thing. But even your understanding of the pornographic fetish and the dynamic is wrong -- it isn't based on women "prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn't you." It's a consensual arrangement with her partner and the activity is intended to be mutually satisfying. But, again, this isn't something that happens IRL.

Incels, on the other hand, are very real. They're a particular kind of loser. And they're very angry about it.

You're comparing apples to wheelbarrows.

I'm not saying that 1/100 people are in these relationship dynamics, but its far more common IRL than you are giving credit to.

One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men.

That is only speaking to the fantasy portion. This is not conversation people IRL are having with you, but they are having these conversations. There is also dating apps directed more specifically to this. Like 'Feeld'. Go ahead and see whose in your area and you might be surprised.

No, I'm not going to go look at degenerate dating sites. Your obsession with this is bizarre. It's not actually a thing. It's not 1 in 100. It might be more like 1 in 100,000. And probably less than that.

1/100,000 = 700ish people. It's more like 7000. 1/10,000

I think I know why you can't get laid, anyway.

Feel free to project.

More of your conversation would infect my brain, you three-inch fool.

Oh no, if this conversation continues your scared you'll become a cuck? Now your just projecting your fragility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't fully agree. C*cks find pleasure in their partner receiving pleasure. That's completely antithesis to incels who see women as something for their pleasure only.

What if the woman in question receives pleasure from taking a nap?

Your trolling is neither original nor interesting.

I’m not really trolling. I just think it’s kind of ridiculous to imagine that every woman is just looking to have sex with some random dude she has never met before.

This is what the “cucks” and “incels” have in common. You think that women are out there, prowling around, looking to have sex with any guy who isn’t you. And that the fact that women aren’t sleeping with you is some kind of evidence of your own weakness or inability to measure up to some man who is richer or stronger or has a bigger penis.

I don't think anyone is saying that is what all women want. Is it hard for you to believe some women want more partners than their husband? It's a one sided polyamarous relationship. I don't think it's for most people, but if it works for others why should I care?

Men - who actively talk about f***ing everything that walks - can't imagine a man who puts his spouse & her pleasure above themselves.