Johns Hopkins releases profile of recent class that was admitted in 2025, big shifts post affirmative action

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Anonymous wrote:a more equitable for college admission would be High School experience and success in your chosen major, and i would have you locked in the major

for instance, if you want to study economics at Harvard or any elite school, but can apply to any college, you need to show practical evidence of you applying economic principles in the field, same goes with business, if you want to get into Wharton, show evidence of you starting a successful business, this would ensure true meritocracy


That's what University of Southern California does with their Film School
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Anonymous wrote:Will the situation be much better this year? Do you think they will decrease the percentage of Asians under 30% this year? I am feeling that they are working on diversity to increase UMR and white on campus when we did the campus visit early this year.


Why is fewer Asians "better?"


I meant the situation (high concentration of any race) getting better.
I think in 2024 cycle somehow they took a much lower percentage of Asians (in the 30s), then in 2025 it bounced back a lot (over 40%). So they were making some efforts but then Harvard case came down, they lost some ways to do so effectively. Perhaps they find some more innovative way to do this this year.

Just wondering.


Asians aren’t one race, they are dozens of distinct identities.


So are Black people, but we are all counted the same
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

Insane. There are not going to be race wars if whites are a disadvantaged minority, which isnt likely either.


I guess you haven’t heard or overheard any candid conversations with white parents whose kids have been shut out of their state flagships.

45% Asian At Hopkins is pretty dramatic.


And probably more like 55-60% because most internationals are Asian.


This year's ED1, they took 18 kids from China. Last year ED1 they took 34. They are making a lot of efforts this year to achieve more balanced demographics.

I think they are doing the same for domestic students, e.g., lower the pecentage of Asian domestic students. Perhaps not cut in half like what they did internationally.
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

Insane. There are not going to be race wars if whites are a disadvantaged minority, which isnt likely either.


I guess you haven’t heard or overheard any candid conversations with white parents whose kids have been shut out of their state flagships.

45% Asian At Hopkins is pretty dramatic.


And probably more like 55-60% because most internationals are Asian.


This year's ED1, they took 18 kids from China. Last year ED1 they took 34. They are making a lot of efforts this year to achieve more balanced demographics.

I think they are doing the same for domestic students, e.g., lower the pecentage of Asian domestic students. Perhaps not cut in half like what they did internationally.


This Affirmative Action ban wasn't thought out, but i do remember conservatives saying we don't care if these schools are 100% Asian

Welcome to the Era of Histrionically Asian Colleges and Universities - HACU
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

Insane. There are not going to be race wars if whites are a disadvantaged minority, which isnt likely either.


I guess you haven’t heard or overheard any candid conversations with white parents whose kids have been shut out of their state flagships.

45% Asian At Hopkins is pretty dramatic.


And probably more like 55-60% because most internationals are Asian.


This year's ED1, they took 18 kids from China. Last year ED1 they took 34. They are making a lot of efforts this year to achieve more balanced demographics.

I think they are doing the same for domestic students, e.g., lower the pecentage of Asian domestic students. Perhaps not cut in half like what they did internationally.


This Affirmative Action ban wasn't thought out, but i do remember conservatives saying we don't care if these schools are 100% Asian

Welcome to the Era of Histrionically Asian Colleges and Universities - HACU


If you spelled Historically correct the joke would have been perfect
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I’m curious if conservatives are okay with the decrease/ stagnation in white acceptances? Is this what was expected?
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

Insane. There are not going to be race wars if whites are a disadvantaged minority, which isnt likely either.


I guess you haven’t heard or overheard any candid conversations with white parents whose kids have been shut out of their state flagships.

45% Asian At Hopkins is pretty dramatic.


And probably more like 55-60% because most internationals are Asian.

This year's ED1, they took 18 kids from China. Last year ED1 they took 34. They are making a lot of efforts this year to achieve more balanced demographics.
I think they are doing the same for domestic students, e.g., lower the pecentage of Asian domestic students. Perhaps not cut in half like what they did internationally.




I’ve been wondering the same thing. (Wondering if it is the same for Princeton and Harvard as well). While the percentage of the Asian students has increased, the growth does not seem to come from the usual international source country or from the traditionally competitive domestic applicants—at least not from schools in the high-SES area.
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No surprise to me. My kid is one of 3 white kids in their FCPS AAP class out of 27 kids. The rest are mostly East Asian or South Asian.
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They took err ̶j̶o̶b̶s̶ colleges!
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Anonymous wrote:They took err ̶j̶o̶b̶s̶ colleges!


The real issue is economic decline. The intense competition for schools and jobs is merely a symptom of widening wealth inequality. Colleges no longer guarantee career or economic stability, so there’s no reason to inflame racial conflict over this.
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

We could curtail this by limiting immigrants who go into PhD programs. A significant chunk of those in PHD programs are international. Sure, Princeton Mathematics can take the best talent from Hungary, Turkey, France or wherever, but there should be massive cuts and restrictions on international students. I think white people will finally realize the mistake when none of their kids can even apply to top managerial positions, because their kids only make up 10-15% of the top colleges and the finance/consulting clubs start placing heavy biases against white students.


Why would clubs start placing heavy biases against whites?

Wait...Have whites been placing heavy biases against non-whites up until now?

Ultimately, whites still have the money and that means we will probably need white client relations people in wealth management.
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Anonymous wrote:This is really a bummer. Way, way too much emphasis on standardized testing.


There is not enough emphasis on standardized testing.

If standardized testing was the sole determinant, there would be almost the same number of white kids as asian kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Will the situation be much better this year? Do you think they will decrease the percentage of Asians under 30% this year? I am feeling that they are working on diversity to increase UMR and white on campus when we did the campus visit early this year.


Why is fewer Asians "better?"


Because they are crowding out white kids. You can't crowd out the majority group without a repercussion.
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Anonymous wrote:Asian parent here.

For some reason, feel a little depressed to learn this. Most of the Asian concentrated schools end up becoming cutthroat and. suffocating. (at least that's what I've seen in high school) not sure about colleges


Once asians realize that their kids don't have to overcome an anti-asian bias, the temperature will moderate.
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Anonymous wrote:While many people were worried that Black and Brown people were getting an unfair advantage, new stats like this underscore what the future will hold:

Asians/Indians will quickly overtake whites as the majority on campus AND in the most prestigious grad school programs and professions.

And the progress made for blacks and Latinos will be diminished.

You can further extrapolate the ripple effect when whites become the disadvantaged minority. I give it one decade before it’s very noticeable, and within two generations it will be what drives race wars. (Please don’t shoot the messenger; let’s have a civil discussion.)

Insane. There are not going to be race wars if whites are a disadvantaged minority, which isnt likely either.


I think “race war” is extreme. I think people are just going to move the goal posts. People are going to say the elite schools and the ivy’s don’t matter so their kids can still find their way into top jobs.


They will try but unless someone can make the argument that admission to the colleges are no longer a proxy for merit, this will not happen.
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