Duke University - Black First Year Student Population Decreases 50%

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is in the south. What do you expect?

Duke was one of the few schools to see black admissions after SFFA.
Then SFFA threatened to sue Duke and they stopped cheating.

Blum also sued a Black investment fund that awarded Black women business with grants, saying it was discrimination because it excluded White Women

White women benefited the most from civil rights so that is interesting lawsuit. There have always been grants and scholarships targeting certain groups so that's a strange one.

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

If you look at private secondary schools, the black students are picking HBCU, it is what it is

Most kids I know who were black and grew up upper middle class hated their schooling experience. Being 1 of hundreds of rich white and Asian kids isn’t exactly fun

Sidwell is 15%, most DMV top schools are 10 - 20%

True for both. Being in too great of a minority is socially miserable. However, today's Sidwell, St Alban's, GDS, etc have solid Black populations, many with umc or higher families.

Decades ago when there was the ability to count race as an element along with other factors, there were still small numbers, but more reasonable (10-12%). Legacies and wealthy white families have alway had the most slots "held" for them and that is still true.

DC is the only place in the US like this except Atlanta.

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

If you look at private secondary schools, the black students are picking HBCU, it is what it is

Most kids I know who were black and grew up upper middle class hated their schooling experience. Being 1 of hundreds of rich white and Asian kids isn’t exactly fun

Sidwell is 15%, most DMV top schools are 10 - 20%

The DMV is not the only place to exist and is simply the minority in terms of having the richest black Americans live inside of it.

actually the DMV is the richest place for black people on the planet

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

If you look at private secondary schools, the black students are picking HBCU, it is what it is

Most kids I know who were black and grew up upper middle class hated their schooling experience. Being 1 of hundreds of rich white and Asian kids isn’t exactly fun

Sidwell is 15%, most DMV top schools are 10 - 20%

True for both. Being in too great of a minority is socially miserable. However, today's Sidwell, St Alban's, GDS, etc have solid Black populations, many with umc or higher families.

Decades ago when there was the ability to count race as an element along with other factors, there were still small numbers, but more reasonable (10-12%). Legacies and wealthy white families have alway had the most slots "held" for them and that is still true.

DC is the only place in the US like this except Atlanta.

The DC Metro is what people think Atlanta is

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

If you look at private secondary schools, the black students are picking HBCU, it is what it is

Most kids I know who were black and grew up upper middle class hated their schooling experience. Being 1 of hundreds of rich white and Asian kids isn’t exactly fun

Sidwell is 15%, most DMV top schools are 10 - 20%

True for both. Being in too great of a minority is socially miserable. However, today's Sidwell, St Alban's, GDS, etc have solid Black populations, many with umc or higher families.

Decades ago when there was the ability to count race as an element along with other factors, there were still small numbers, but more reasonable (10-12%). Legacies and wealthy white families have alway had the most slots "held" for them and that is still true.

DC is the only place in the US like this except Atlanta.

The DC Metro is what people think Atlanta is

Atlanta still sadly exists in the state of Georgia.

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Anonymous wrote:It may be over for Black Americans in elite schools, prob looking at 75% Africans and Caribbean and 25% Black American

At some point, they’ll opt out for hbcus. When numbers drop this low, there’s a certain power dynamic over black students that drives them away.

I've always taken the stance that reparations should go to HBCU, take the top 25 HBCU and give 1 billion each

I could get behind something like this.

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The DC Metro is what people think Atlanta is

Atlanta still sadly exists in the state of Georgia.

+1 Atlanta and DC are both at the top, but DC wins out located in the northeast corridor. It just takes two SVP parents over 10+ years (or the many other combinations) and voila! Out pops a full pay Black family, lol. We're one of them. It was kinda shocking to realize that 10 or so years ago given that was not hiw either of us grew up. But then the full pay middle school invoices started rolling in. Now, we have the luxury of getting a token $15k merit aid to college and otherwise writing checks (which we are more than happy to do to launch DS and DD).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

Is that positive news, following white family playbook?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

Their stats aren’t as good as a cohort though. The standardized scores and HS class ranking still lag **as a cohort**. ECs, it depends — national academic awards, not so much. The documents provided in the SCt cases demonstrate this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may be over for Black Americans in elite schools, prob looking at 75% Africans and Caribbean and 25% Black American

At some point, they’ll opt out for hbcus. When numbers drop this low, there’s a certain power dynamic over black students that drives them away.

I've always taken the stance that reparations should go to HBCU, take the top 25 HBCU and give 1 billion each

“Reparations” = you are a LWNJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may be over for Black Americans in elite schools, prob looking at 75% Africans and Caribbean and 25% Black American

At some point, they’ll opt out for hbcus. When numbers drop this low, there’s a certain power dynamic over black students that drives them away.

I've always taken the stance that reparations should go to HBCU, take the top 25 HBCU and give 1 billion each

“Reparations” = you are a LWNJ.

In English?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

The writing’s on the wall. Even now that affirmative action in admissions was ended by SCOTUS, universities are still being accused of DEI because their black student populations haven’t decreased to 0. Why waste the effort to try to go to a school where other students think you don’t belong?

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

We know a family like this and their kids go to Spelman and Howard. Both parents went to top universities. Something else is going on

The writing’s on the wall. Even now that affirmative action in admissions was ended by SCOTUS, universities are still being accused of DEI because their black student populations haven’t decreased to 0. Why waste the effort to try to go to a school where other students think you don’t belong?

My daughters best friend says that happens, she's a U Penn, it's not a lot of that at elite secondary private Day Schools, which is more of a wealth thing, but given these colleges pick most of their students from public schools, it makes sense

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

Their stats aren’t as good as a cohort though. The standardized scores and HS class ranking still lag **as a cohort**. ECs, it depends — national academic awards, not so much. The documents provided in the SCt cases demonstrate this.

Agree. Stats aren't as good as a cohort, yet. That's what I meant by Black families are, as a cohort, now more systematically adopting the "playbook of the white wealthy." For example, learning that 1500+ SAT scores are tablestakes and very achieveable with SAT tutoring and practice tests starting early enough and getting algebra I, II and geometry out of the quickly, etc. Ensuring 4.5++ gpa's via early and extensive APs. Now that folks are in the private schools and doing these things at home as well, the stats/test scores are quickly increasing. Also Black families knowing the importance of recruited athletes as a hook (which has been happening, as a cohort, for a while). And importantly, now being legacies and having that as a hook.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely, there are increasing numbers of black families with parents that are now successful in numbers never seen. So these families have raised kids in private schools, with SAT prep, and have followed the privileged white family playbook and are sending their kids to the elite institutions with all the pumped up APs and grades and ec's etc. So there is positive news for Black families as well.

Their stats aren’t as good as a cohort though. The standardized scores and HS class ranking still lag **as a cohort**. ECs, it depends — national academic awards, not so much. The documents provided in the SCt cases demonstrate this.

Agree. Stats aren't as good as a cohort, yet. That's what I meant by Black families are, as a cohort, now more systematically adopting the "playbook of the white wealthy." For example, learning that 1500+ SAT scores are tablestakes and very achieveable with SAT tutoring and practice tests starting early enough and getting algebra I, II and geometry out of the quickly, etc. Ensuring 4.5++ gpa's via early and extensive APs. Now that folks are in the private schools and doing these things at home as well, the stats/test scores are quickly increasing. Also Black families knowing the importance of recruited athletes as a hook (which has been happening, as a cohort, for a while). And importantly, now being legacies and having that as a hook.

I think immigrants, 1st and 2nd generation regardless of color will over take everyone, along with A.I, by the third generation, they get lazy like everyone else