Is it real? Churchill vs Wootton vs Gaithersburg and QC?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't use grades to measure my kid's performance, but I relay more on MAP test results. I have a kid zoned to QO HS in region 5 who will be expected to do well in established magnet programs if there's opportunities given for region 5. It would be awesome if MCPS or BOD consider to move Wootton HS ( if permanent Crown in option H finaly selected) to region 5, and they can make their magnet programs criteria based & given more seats for home students something like that. Just give some behaved students in region 5 who want to learn a chance to excel and choose from. They have moved Quince Orchard HS from region 6 to region 5 without any family surveys, I assume that mcps or BOD have the ability to do that. Region 5 now looks kind of crappy compared to other regions with nothing stand out.


Regions 2 and 5 always looked a little bit unbalanced/problematic.

It's just QO families are complaining about region 5 now after QO got switched into that region.


That is because now all high schools in gaithersburg lose access to poolesville established magnet. Before 6 regional program is planned, I believe all upper county high schools in Damasvus/clarksnurg/germantown/gaithersburg have equal access to poolesville magnet.


In that document that came out around August and before the Damascus and QO split, Region 5 was supposed to be Crown, Magruder, Gaithersburg, Damascus and Watkins Mill.

So they had no access to Poolesville or any of the current countywide magnet or IB programs. This was before option H was proposed to have Crown be most of the current Wootton area too.

Then region 2 is basically the Northeast Consortium, with Blake, Paint Branch, Springbrook and Sherwood. So had Sherwood added, which in a recent Reddit post, someone posted some kind of analysis where Sherwood is kind of underperforming based on prices of homes in it's zip code areas.

And in another previous thread, some QO parents said they are rightfully protesting for their school because it affects them.

And that's true.

But some of these regions are not balanced and fair and give access to the same variety of schools. I would like to think that MCPS is trying it's best to balance it out and maybe why they switched Damascus and QO. But just the way the county is economically segregated, makes it very hard to do. And it's resulting in these unbalanced regions.


Damascus should be in Region 5. We QO parents were asleep at the wheel when this started and took notice only later.

Wootton going to Region 5 if it moves to Crown would just make it more balanced. Its just the magnet kids anyways and at least this way region 5 can get a good cohort.



For the option H articulation tables it has Crown/Wootton in Region 4. As another poster mentioned, if they move Wootton/Crown out, Region 4 would only have three schools. The Option H Articulation tables document is also indicated as under QC. So maybe they're looking into shifting things around.

But remember Dr. Taylor claimed that if the regional models resulted in any inequities, they can't/won't look into it any further.

So if there is a region that seems bad enough where you'd protest your school being put into it, instead of trying to throw another school in there and have them be in a region you find undesirable, maybe protest the six regional model. This way every school can have access to the already establishing countywide regional programs. And maybe they can look into increasing the amount of seats and also improve the already existing programs at the other schools like Kennedy. As well as making sure all students have access to the desired higher level classes.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ll bite. For me, it’s about what I consider a better school based on a peer group of kids who are motivated and have strong home support… so FARMS rate matters to me.

I prefer to avoid Wootton because of the super intense Asian-led competitive culture that I don’t think is healthy for (any) kids. I’m sure my kids would get an equivalent education there, I don’t think Churchill is academically superior or has smarter or better kids.

And of course we care about our property values. Our house is a large investment for us and a decline in property value is not nothing.

We moved from DC to MCPS for the schools and miss DC. Our property and state taxes are significantly higher here so if the schools change, we will likely move back to DC.



Motivated but not too motivated. Want to be in an easier school for college admissions competition.
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To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.
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Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


Uh why wouldn't it be? Montgomery county is mostly illiterate except in a few intelligence islands
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Polished language will say friends communitities blah blah.

For some it's FARMS rate and propety values. For some, it's not even FARMS rate because Churchill and Wootton have low FARMS rate and equally good schools. It's just snobbish attitude.

- Churchill Parent

This.

Churchill thinks the white people are superior to Asians. Asians think higher FARMS = kids that disrupt their kids' learning environment

Let me get this. Whites' desire to segregate is driven by their evil superiority complex. Asians' desire to segregate is driven by their passion for learning. Racial tropes like this are not helpful. The ironic thing is that they are mostly pushed by white woke idiots.
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Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


Uh why wouldn't it be? Montgomery county is mostly illiterate except in a few intelligence islands


I think it is less about Crown being bad vs. Region 5 being definitively bad with no established programs. MCPS not promising to invest in any new programs - no teachers, no dollars, no facilities. Just programs in name only. That doesn't include the bussing details either.
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Anonymous wrote:Polished language will say friends communitities blah blah.

For some it's FARMS rate and propety values. For some, it's not even FARMS rate because Churchill and Wootton have low FARMS rate and equally good schools. It's just snobbish attitude.

- Churchill Parent


This.

Churchill thinks the white people are superior to Asians. Asians think higher FARMS = kids that disrupt their kids' learning environment

Let me get this. Whites' desire to segregate is driven by their evil superiority complex. Asians' desire to segregate is driven by their passion for learning. Racial tropes like this are not helpful. The ironic thing is that they are mostly pushed by white woke idiots.



From a school performance standpoint, I wouldn't think Churchill families would have an issue going to Wootton.

But I think there really are class differences between Potomac and other areas.

Where I've often noted that when we go to activities with a good amount of Potomac families, you just see the differences in the cars in the parking lot and how much money those families pour into activities(which also makes it hard to stay on level with the kids in those activities).

So can kind of see why Potomac families wouldn't want to change schools. Of course not everyone in Potomac is rich or live that kind of lifestyle. But I can see why people would think otherwise.
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Anonymous wrote:Polished language will say friends communitities blah blah.

For some it's FARMS rate and propety values. For some, it's not even FARMS rate because Churchill and Wootton have low FARMS rate and equally good schools. It's just snobbish attitude.

- Churchill Parent


This.

Churchill thinks the white people are superior to Asians. Asians think higher FARMS = kids that disrupt their kids' learning environment


Let me get this. Whites' desire to segregate is driven by their evil superiority complex. Asians' desire to segregate is driven by their passion for learning. Racial tropes like this are not helpful. The ironic thing is that they are mostly pushed by white woke idiots.



From a school performance standpoint, I wouldn't think Churchill families would have an issue going to Wootton.

But I think there really are class differences between Potomac and other areas.

Where I've often noted that when we go to activities with a good amount of Potomac families, you just see the differences in the cars in the parking lot and how much money those families pour into activities(which also makes it hard to stay on level with the kids in those activities).

So can kind of see why Potomac families wouldn't want to change schools. Of course not everyone in Potomac is rich or live that kind of lifestyle. But I can see why people would think otherwise.


The median household income in Potomac is $240K. I don’t blame them not want to move their kids to another HS (except Walt Whitman maybe)
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Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


You see they know that the school "brand" thing is like a BS in real estate. They have trotted it out for years, "Which school'd you go to?", "Rockville", "OH wah wah". Now they are faced with having to explain that Crown is a good school you can get a good education, but "wah wah", it doesn't have a name brand.

Caught in their own doo-doo it seems.
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Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


You see they know that the school "brand" thing is like a BS in real estate. They have trotted it out for years, "Which school'd you go to?", "Rockville", "OH wah wah". Now they are faced with having to explain that Crown is a good school you can get a good education, but "wah wah", it doesn't have a name brand.

Caught in their own doo-doo it seems.


Oh another anti Asian racist taking a swing at Wootton. How original!!! Listen, you can move our entire student body to Crown and Crown will be the best school in the county because of our capable students and super engaged parents. I know it’s hard to believe that there are successful minorities out there. Wootton doesn’t have a name brand. You know what it has? A school profile. A college admissions counselor looking at our school profile submitted with transcripts will draw all the right conclusions. We don’t say “oh wah wah” because it’s Rockville, we say “oh wah wah” because we know that our college admissions outcomes will be better.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


You see they know that the school "brand" thing is like a BS in real estate. They have trotted it out for years, "Which school'd you go to?", "Rockville", "OH wah wah". Now they are faced with having to explain that Crown is a good school you can get a good education, but "wah wah", it doesn't have a name brand.

Caught in their own doo-doo it seems.


Oh another anti Asian racist taking a swing at Wootton. How original!!! Listen, you can move our entire student body to Crown and Crown will be the best school in the county because of our capable students and super engaged parents. I know it’s hard to believe that there are successful minorities out there. Wootton doesn’t have a name brand. You know what it has? A school profile. A college admissions counselor looking at our school profile submitted with transcripts will draw all the right conclusions. We don’t say “oh wah wah” because it’s Rockville, we say “oh wah wah” because we know that our college admissions outcomes will be better.


Hey look there's a FARMS kid, better sell your house.
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Anonymous wrote:I’ll bite. For me, it’s about what I consider a better school based on a peer group of kids who are motivated and have strong home support… so FARMS rate matters to me.

I prefer to avoid Wootton because of the super intense Asian-led competitive culture that I don’t think is healthy for (any) kids. I’m sure my kids would get an equivalent education there, I don’t think Churchill is academically superior or has smarter or better kids.

And of course we care about our property values. Our house is a large investment for us and a decline in property value is not nothing.

We moved from DC to MCPS for the schools and miss DC. Our property and state taxes are significantly higher here so if the schools change, we will likely move back to DC.


Thanks for a honest answer instead of hiding behind friends and communities. Rarely folks give stright answer.


This is one parent's perspective - and it is no less valid than any other parent's perspective. Unfortunately, MCPS has already decided what it wants to do. The only real factor is voter backlash against local politicians whose career trajectory could be derailed. Another one could be the loss of high-income earners who pay county taxes but decide to move to Northern Virginia for better schools once they're zoned out of the MCPS school for their current house.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To me it just sounds like Wootton parents are already assuming Crown will be a bad school before it even opened.


You see they know that the school "brand" thing is like a BS in real estate. They have trotted it out for years, "Which school'd you go to?", "Rockville", "OH wah wah". Now they are faced with having to explain that Crown is a good school you can get a good education, but "wah wah", it doesn't have a name brand.

Caught in their own doo-doo it seems.


Oh another anti Asian racist taking a swing at Wootton. How original!!! Listen, you can move our entire student body to Crown and Crown will be the best school in the county because of our capable students and super engaged parents. I know it’s hard to believe that there are successful minorities out there. Wootton doesn’t have a name brand. You know what it has? A school profile. A college admissions counselor looking at our school profile submitted with transcripts will draw all the right conclusions. We don’t say “oh wah wah” because it’s Rockville, we say “oh wah wah” because we know that our college admissions outcomes will be better.


Hey look there's a FARMS kid, better sell your house.


No FARMS is coming to Crown under option H or any other option so stick your virtue signaling where you have a stick stuck.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll bite. For me, it’s about what I consider a better school based on a peer group of kids who are motivated and have strong home support… so FARMS rate matters to me.

I prefer to avoid Wootton because of the super intense Asian-led competitive culture that I don’t think is healthy for (any) kids. I’m sure my kids would get an equivalent education there, I don’t think Churchill is academically superior or has smarter or better kids.

And of course we care about our property values. Our house is a large investment for us and a decline in property value is not nothing.

We moved from DC to MCPS for the schools and miss DC. Our property and state taxes are significantly higher here so if the schools change, we will likely move back to DC.


Thanks for a honest answer instead of hiding behind friends and communities. Rarely folks give stright answer.


This is one parent's perspective - and it is no less valid than any other parent's perspective. Unfortunately, MCPS has already decided what it wants to do. The only real factor is voter backlash against local politicians whose career trajectory could be derailed. Another one could be the loss of high-income earners who pay county taxes but decide to move to Northern Virginia for better schools once they're zoned out of the MCPS school for their current house.


Get in line. With WFH anyone that can manage to sell their home is packing their bags. Especially those of us in the average school districts.
Anonymous
Overall Results

ELA (literacy): 57% of MCPS students scored proficient — higher than the state average but still meaning nearly half of all students are not reading on grade level.

Math: 35.7% of students met proficiency — an increase from last year but still indicating that nearly two-thirds of MCPS students are not yet meeting math standards.

There’s a multi-billion dollar backlog for repair and renovation — even a proposed $2.7 billion plan over six years would still only cover half of what’s needed.

There’s a multi-billion dollar backlog for repair and renovation — even a proposed $2.7 billion plan over six years would still only cover half of what’s needed.

2035 (10 Years From Now)
If Nothing Changes at Wootton
The building is nearly 65 years old and long past normal life expectancy. Aging systems move from “poor” to “critical failure.” Parts of the school may become unusable:
Classrooms closed
Bathroom wings offline
Auditorium, gym, or labs restricted because of air or electrical hazards
Daily disruptions become normal: canceled rehearsals, relocated AP tests, emergency evacuations, repeated closures of rooms or corridors.
MCPS spends millions on bandaid repairs, which delays true renovation even further.
Wootton becomes an equity embarrassment: top-producing academic school in one of the wealthiest counties—but physically neglected.
Families who can leave leave; the county loses trust.

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