Is it real? Churchill vs Wootton vs Gaithersburg and QC?

[Anonymous]

In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Assuming this is a genuine question and not just an attempt to cause more drama, it’s not about not wanting to be with the other schools/kids. It’s about wanting to stay with long established friends and communities.

[Anonymous]

It's also about property values, let's be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's also about property values, let's be honest.

Could definitely be a factor for some, that’s true. The kids don’t care about that though. They want to stay with their friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's also about property values, let's be honest.

I'm curious how property values will be affected because of regional magnets? Property values is based on the high school itself not the regional magnets. They should put Wootton in Region 5 and let Wootton keep the STEM magnet and have Gaithersburg host the Humanities magnet.

[Anonymous]

Partially genuine, partially being sarcastic, and definitely not to cause drama.

I am genuinely curious about if my impression is right that some families in this area seems to consider themselves (or in the name of their kids) "superior" to other.

I am being sarcastic that I don't think the kids are that different. The parents, on the other hand, have their own thoughts such as house values, but only claim to think for the benefits of their children.

I totally agree that kids need friends. But here is a question: how many of those families would refuse a better job offer, say higher salary, more growth opportunity, better weather, etc. that requires relocation to a new place with similarly reputable schools?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Assuming this is a genuine question and not just an attempt to cause more drama, it’s not about not wanting to be with the other schools/kids. It’s about wanting to stay with long established friends and communities.

[Anonymous]

There would be a positive benefit in the scenarios you mention. What’s the upside to pulling a single school out of a well established community like they are attempting to do to the Wootton and Churchill clusters? And now maybe a QO school too? These kids have friends, they play sports with them, they ride their bikes to the surrounding neighborhoods. Maybe the parents are also worried about property value. I don’t think it’s about feeling superior. Why would you expect them to be happy when there is no benefit and only a downside?

Anonymous wrote:
Partially genuine, partially being sarcastic, and definitely not to cause drama.

I am genuinely curious about if my impression is right that some families in this area seems to consider themselves (or in the name of their kids) "superior" to other.

I am being sarcastic that I don't think the kids are that different. The parents, on the other hand, have their own thoughts such as house values, but only claim to think for the benefits of their children.

I totally agree that kids need friends. But here is a question: how many of those families would refuse a better job offer, say higher salary, more growth opportunity, better weather, etc. that requires relocation to a new place with similarly reputable schools?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Assuming this is a genuine question and not just an attempt to cause more drama, it’s not about not wanting to be with the other schools/kids. It’s about wanting to stay with long established friends and communities.

[Anonymous]

It’s not just about property values. It’s about self segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just about property values. It’s about self segregation.

Oh you must be in favor of the bussing all over the county. Not local schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Polished language will say friends communitities blah blah.

For some it's FARMS rate and propety values. For some, it's not even FARMS rate because Churchill and Wootton have low FARMS rate and equally good schools. It's just snobbish attitude.

- Churchill Parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Partially genuine, partially being sarcastic, and definitely not to cause drama.

I am genuinely curious about if my impression is right that some families in this area seems to consider themselves (or in the name of their kids) "superior" to other.

I am being sarcastic that I don't think the kids are that different. The parents, on the other hand, have their own thoughts such as house values, but only claim to think for the benefits of their children.

I totally agree that kids need friends. But here is a question: how many of those families would refuse a better job offer, say higher salary, more growth opportunity, better weather, etc. that requires relocation to a new place with similarly reputable schools?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Assuming this is a genuine question and not just an attempt to cause more drama, it’s not about not wanting to be with the other schools/kids. It’s about wanting to stay with long established friends and communities.

Very few families will come out and openly say it's about FARMs rate, house values etc. It's far better to say friends and communities.

[Anonymous]

my kids have long since graduated, but my answer would be atmosphere (although I only know the atmosphere at G-burg)

I had one kid at Poolesville (magnet), the other at G-burg (home school) and it was like night and day walking those schools at lunch time. At Poolesville the kids sit in the halls doing homework together or idly chit-chatting. At G-burg it was all out chaos, kids running, yelling and throwing balls in the hallways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my kids have long since graduated, but my answer would be atmosphere (although I only know the atmosphere at G-burg)

I had one kid at Poolesville (magnet), the other at G-burg (home school) and it was like night and day walking those schools at lunch time. At Poolesville the kids sit in the halls doing homework together or idly chit-chatting. At G-burg it was all out chaos, kids running, yelling and throwing balls in the hallways.

So being HS’ers? As others have said it’s the vision of idyllic atmosphere that usually has nothing to do with reality or if kids are succeeding in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kids have long since graduated, but my answer would be atmosphere (although I only know the atmosphere at G-burg)

I had one kid at Poolesville (magnet), the other at G-burg (home school) and it was like night and day walking those schools at lunch time. At Poolesville the kids sit in the halls doing homework together or idly chit-chatting. At G-burg it was all out chaos, kids running, yelling and throwing balls in the hallways.

So being HS’ers? As others have said it’s the vision of idyllic atmosphere that usually has nothing to do with reality or if kids are succeeding in the classroom.

Well, my child at G-burg succeeded in the classroom (got As) but learned very little. She needed to retake Algebra at MC (for no credit) even though she got an A in precalc at G-burg. I was not happy at all with her education at G-burg, mostly because "the teachers spent more time yelling at those who interrupt, than on teaching" (my child's words when I questioned how she got A's but didn't learn anything).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
In the current round of school boundary discussion, I noticed that some Churchill families don't want to be mixed with Wootton, while some Wootton families don't want to be mixed with Gaithersburg or Quince Orchid. To me, some options seem totally sensible from the map and the numbers, but they got strong opposition from the community. Some families would rather travel more time to get to Churchill over Wootton, or to get to Wootton over Crown or Gaithersburg or QC. Did I get a wrong impression?

I know the housing price is very different in those areas. But, are the students' body and teaching outcome that different in those schools?

Polished language will say friends communitities blah blah.

For some it's FARMS rate and propety values. For some, it's not even FARMS rate because Churchill and Wootton have low FARMS rate and equally good schools. It's just snobbish attitude.

- Churchill Parent

This.

Churchill thinks the white people are superior to Asians. Asians think higher FARMS = kids that disrupt their kids' learning environment