AI job apocalypse and electrical bill nightmare. Does the current admin even care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

I tend to agree in fact Biden's AI executive order which Trump rescinded is more to blame.

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

The title is safe a trustworthy AI development, but in practice it imported as many AI professionals as possible accelerating AI. Biden directly ordered the agencies to find ways to import AI talent. Made AI a schedule AI occupation where they didn't have to do labor searches to get green cards etc.

I am so thankful that Trump eliminated that EO.

EG he has done something, and I think he is likely the right guy to oversee this process for American interests.

I've been saying this for years we never had to come this fast in technology. We didn't need to import hundreds of thousands of software engineers each year.

This is what Democrats asked.

I see nothing of substance in your post about why Trump is the "right guy" - he is all in, accelerating full stop, doesn't care about the safety, repercussions, the environmental impact, our energy bill, or water supply. His "all in" status is even creating rifts within the GOP.

Trump loves AI, and the MAGA world is getting worried

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/13/ai-is-opening-a-maga-trump-split-00534925

Of course he loves AI. Because he hates thinking. Especially a thinking population

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get solar on your home. Even with the tax credits going away, they will end up net profitable within 5-6 years given skyrocketing electricity costs.

Folks in NoVA are going to get it so bad when it comes to sticker shock. Yall are absolutely f#cked.

I am in NOVA and already spend around _350 a month with Dominion on a 2700 sq foot SFH. All electrical power in my neighborhood outside the beltway, no gas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

Agree. Posted this on another thread.

It looks a lot better for a company to say that they are reducing the workforce due to AI rather than costs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tens-thousands-layoffs-are-blamed-ai-are-companies-actually-getting-rcna240221

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

Agree. Posted this on another thread.

It looks a lot better for a company to say that they are reducing the workforce due to AI rather than costs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tens-thousands-layoffs-are-blamed-ai-are-companies-actually-getting-rcna240221

Either way, the data centers keep multiplying and I don't see good plans in place to adequately boost our power infrastructure while keeping bills low for consumers. Also see that they don't care about how data centers deplete oir water supply. Are we building these things in areas subject to forest fires? (genuine question, I don't know)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden didn’t care either. Did you think all this technology started in 2024? Please. Andrew Yang was the only candidate talking about this in 2020 and he was too smart and not white enough for the Dems to vote for him. Instead they went with the declining Biden who was never the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yes, Trump is at fault too. But Trump does not exist in a vacuum. Look in the mirror as well.

Sure. Whataboutism. Trump is currently the president and the problem is now here and he doesn't seem to care, frankly, even wants to accelerate it without regard to jobs or electrical costs to consumers or draining of water supply. Literally doesn't want to evaluate the environmental impact of data centers.

So stop with the whataboutistm. What is Trump doing here and now about my electrical bill?

+1 Dems are the ones who wanted to regulate AI, Rs didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

Agree. Posted this on another thread.

It looks a lot better for a company to say that they are reducing the workforce due to AI rather than costs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tens-thousands-layoffs-are-blamed-ai-are-companies-actually-getting-rcna240221

Either way, the data centers keep multiplying and I don't see good plans in place to adequately boost our power infrastructure while keeping bills low for consumers. Also see that they don't care about how data centers deplete oir water supply. Are we building these things in areas subject to forest fires? (genuine question, I don't know)

Politicians only care that those data centers are creating some jobs. They don't care about your utility bills especially since those politicians probably don't live in those areas.

[Anonymous]

I am using ai to write up my documents and plans , no need for clueless tech writers or note takers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

If we ditch the EV experiment and go back to ICE vehicles we’ll be okay. Bill Gates now says climate change isn’t an existential threat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

If we ditch the EV experiment and go back to ICE vehicles we’ll be okay. Bill Gates now says climate change isn’t an existential threat.

Unless you are trying to get home insurance while drop rates rise in manh areas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden didn’t care either. Did you think all this technology started in 2024? Please. Andrew Yang was the only candidate talking about this in 2020 and he was too smart and not white enough for the Dems to vote for him. Instead they went with the declining Biden who was never the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yes, Trump is at fault too. But Trump does not exist in a vacuum. Look in the mirror as well.

Sure. Whataboutism. Trump is currently the president and the problem is now here and he doesn't seem to care, frankly, even wants to accelerate it without regard to jobs or electrical costs to consumers or draining of water supply. Literally doesn't want to evaluate the environmental impact of data centers.

So stop with the whataboutistm. What is Trump doing here and now about my electrical bill?

It’s not whataboutism. What are any politicians doing to stop companies from taking advantage of people? What did anyone do to stop social media from corrupting society? Who stopped all these casinos opening up everywhere and getting Black and Brown people in debt? Who stopped online gambling? Online porn? Weed stores everywhere?

No politicians care about anyone. They care about money and getting insider stock trading tips. The sooner you realize that you’re on your own and none of these people care about you the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

I tend to agree in fact Biden's AI executive order which Trump rescinded is more to blame.

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

The title is safe a trustworthy AI development, but in practice it imported as many AI professionals as possible accelerating AI. Biden directly ordered the agencies to find ways to import AI talent. Made AI a schedule AI occupation where they didn't have to do labor searches to get green cards etc.

I am so thankful that Trump eliminated that EO.

EG he has done something, and I think he is likely the right guy to oversee this process for American interests.

I've been saying this for years we never had to come this fast in technology. We didn't need to import hundreds of thousands of software engineers each year.

This is what Democrats asked.

Ok, but try to follow me here. I’ll make it easier for you, since you went off on a tangent and I would like to know your opinion:

What effects are TRUMPS tariffs having on the economy and job market?

What are the effects of TRUMPS mass government layoffs on the job market and economy?

What are the effects of people slowing down spending once Trump was elected because of economic concerns on the job market?

You keep on harping on Trump! Trump
and Biden and everyone in Washington is to blame for this! No one gave a damn that AI would take everyone’s jobs and that it could maybe in a worse case scenario lead to AGI exterminating humans because everyone in Washington is paid off by Big Tech.

Now it is too late. The fox is in the hen house. We are literally all doomed. They have companies that are literally making robots that will have AI built into them. How do think that will end for humanity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

On the plus side, everyone is realizing the whole global warming bit was a scam. Even Bill Gates is going around telling people to stop talking about it.

Turns out the gravest threat to humanity just took a backseat so people can draft TPS reports faster.

The single greatest threat to humanity is the progressive movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

On the plus side, everyone is realizing the whole global warming bit was a scam. Even Bill Gates is going around telling people to stop talking about it.

Turns out the gravest threat to humanity just took a backseat so people can draft TPS reports faster.

The single greatest threat to humanity is the progressive movement.

Huh? Progressives want personal freedom. Conservatives want to stifle it. It isn't the far left entertaining ideas of sending women back to the kitchen or repealing the 19th or enforcing Christianity, it is people like Kirk or Hesgeth. The red pill is a grave thread individual freedom, religious liberty, and democracy.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s crazy he cut all the tax incentives for solar. It would help the grid out and benefit consumers. Most months the electric company pays us for the power we generate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

I tend to agree in fact Biden's AI executive order which Trump rescinded is more to blame.

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

The title is safe a trustworthy AI development, but in practice it imported as many AI professionals as possible accelerating AI. Biden directly ordered the agencies to find ways to import AI talent. Made AI a schedule AI occupation where they didn't have to do labor searches to get green cards etc.

I am so thankful that Trump eliminated that EO.

EG he has done something, and I think he is likely the right guy to oversee this process for American interests.

I've been saying this for years we never had to come this fast in technology. We didn't need to import hundreds of thousands of software engineers each year.

This is what Democrats asked.

Ok, but try to follow me here. I’ll make it easier for you, since you went off on a tangent and I would like to know your opinion:

What effects are TRUMPS tariffs having on the economy and job market?

What are the effects of TRUMPS mass government layoffs on the job market and economy?

What are the effects of people slowing down spending once Trump was elected because of economic concerns on the job market?

You keep on harping on Trump! Trump
and Biden and everyone in Washington is to blame for this! No one gave a damn that AI would take everyone’s jobs and that it could maybe in a worse case scenario lead to AGI exterminating humans because everyone in Washington is paid off by Big Tech.

Now it is too late. The fox is in the hen house. We are literally all doomed. They have companies that are literally making robots that will have AI built into them. How do think that will end for humanity?

The U.S. doesn’t regulate industry. They let it happen organically. You also have really bought into the AI hype. AI isn’t very good right now. It’s in its infancy. The training models are meh and they haven’t solved the hallucinations yet. I work with AI and am taken aback at the hype surrounding it. Much of it is from Silicon Valley because they need to secure future investment. AI isn’t going to be replacing folks soon. In the future, yes. But don’t look to the government for technology policy. They barely can use a cell phone.