AI job apocalypse and electrical bill nightmare. Does the current admin even care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

[Anonymous]

I have friends who live out in areas where there is big data center growth happening - they are seeing significant jumps in their electricity bills.

This is not fair to them, it's not them consuming more electricity, it's the data centers. Why should residential ratepayers be subsidizing data center consumers?

There are a ton of other things like this happening, all driven by AI. It's like a death of a thousand cuts. People need to start paying attention. And this Trump administration won't help them one bit. They need to mobilize at the state and local level, and at the federal level get new leadership.

AI can't be stopped but at least we need to think about how to do it without ruining society. Trump and others don't give a shit about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

You're shortsighted. Yes, changes in technology have happened in the past, but never like this. Instead of being limited to just one narrow sector like switchboard operators or livery stables, it's vast swaths of the economy. Your own job will likely be affected, you just don't realize it yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

Your analogy is not apt. When the rower lost his job, he could start work at the sailmaker. (Even if not that direct)

OR, other possibility, he died at age 28 of a painful sore in his side. Ouch.

We humans want to live to 78+. So… what’s the “sailmaker” job in this case?

I worked for an AI company. It feels hollow, and I’ll admit, if they paid better I would go back. For now, I switched to two part time jobs that will never, and I think never, be taken by AI. This is working with children, and especially one in a safety capacity that parents will not turn over to ai.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

Paid astroturfer?

-Laid off with a skyrocketing electrical bill thanks to data centers.

[Anonymous]

Biden didn’t care either. Did you think all this technology started in 2024? Please. Andrew Yang was the only candidate talking about this in 2020 and he was too smart and not white enough for the Dems to vote for him. Instead they went with the declining Biden who was never the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yes, Trump is at fault too. But Trump does not exist in a vacuum. Look in the mirror as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

Paid astroturfer?

-Laid off with a skyrocketing electrical bill thanks to data centers.

Yep. It’s like on the food recall post I saw a couple of weeks ago. Underneath the post, the comments were like “These cookies are so good with a glass of milk. <company> is so awesome.” Several more positive posts sprinkled in the comments. A few talking about the recall (real people), and one guy was like me… “Anybody seeing this?? Incredible use of a comments section.”

To the previous-previous poster, how are your cookies with metal shards in them??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden didn’t care either. Did you think all this technology started in 2024? Please. Andrew Yang was the only candidate talking about this in 2020 and he was too smart and not white enough for the Dems to vote for him. Instead they went with the declining Biden who was never the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yes, Trump is at fault too. But Trump does not exist in a vacuum. Look in the mirror as well.

Sure. Whataboutism. Trump is currently the president and the problem is now here and he doesn't seem to care, frankly, even wants to accelerate it without regard to jobs or electrical costs to consumers or draining of water supply. Literally doesn't want to evaluate the environmental impact of data centers.

So stop with the whataboutistm. What is Trump doing here and now about my electrical bill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

On the plus side, everyone is realizing the whole global warming bit was a scam. Even Bill Gates is going around telling people to stop talking about it.

Turns out the gravest threat to humanity just took a backseat so people can draft TPS reports faster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I”m not sure AI is the real issue here. It is a handy bogey man for the trump admin to hang a poor economy and lower employment rate on. Yes, SOME jobs are to AI, but tariffs and horrible economic policies (cutting government jobs, people scared to buy) are also hurting the economy.

AI isn’t the only issue in our economy, but it IS an issue Trump isn’t directly responsible for.

I tend to agree in fact Biden's AI executive order which Trump rescinded is more to blame.

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/

The title is safe a trustworthy AI development, but in practice it imported as many AI professionals as possible accelerating AI. Biden directly ordered the agencies to find ways to import AI talent. Made AI a schedule AI occupation where they didn't have to do labor searches to get green cards etc.

I am so thankful that Trump eliminated that EO.

EG he has done something, and I think he is likely the right guy to oversee this process for American interests.

I've been saying this for years we never had to come this fast in technology. We didn't need to import hundreds of thousands of software engineers each year.

This is what Democrats asked.

Ok, but try to follow me here. I’ll make it easier for you, since you went off on a tangent and I would like to know your opinion:

What effects are TRUMPS tariffs having on the economy and job market?

What are the effects of TRUMPS mass government layoffs on the job market and economy?

What are the effects of people slowing down spending once Trump was elected because of economic concerns on the job market?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

On the plus side, everyone is realizing the whole global warming bit was a scam. Even Bill Gates is going around telling people to stop talking about it.

Turns out the gravest threat to humanity just took a backseat so people can draft TPS reports faster.

Don't worry, home insurance companies still believe it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

You're shortsighted. Yes, changes in technology have happened in the past, but never like this. Instead of being limited to just one narrow sector like switchboard operators or livery stables, it's vast swaths of the economy. Your own job will likely be affected, you just don't realize it yet.

It has affected my job. In a good way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Stock gains are no longer correlated to jobs numbers.”

Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.

Tell me you are deflecting from the main points raised. Focus on the forest, not the tree.

Awesome, let's talk about the forest.

If this post were taken to its logical but absurd conclusion. we would roll back all the technology innovation that's happened across the past 1100 years and return ourselves to 10th century living.

What about all the rowing jobs that were killed by the invention of the sail! We need those rowing jobs back!

I really wonder sometimes what percentage of the posts on this board are written by adults vs idealistic college students who are fresh off hearing some unhinged socialist rant from their sociology professor.

You're shortsighted. Yes, changes in technology have happened in the past, but never like this. Instead of being limited to just one narrow sector like switchboard operators or livery stables, it's vast swaths of the economy. Your own job will likely be affected, you just don't realize it yet.

It has affected my job. In a good way.

Will effect my job. In a bad way. Also for those who get jobs in AI, tends to be a short term gig, once set up, can scale back. The long term picture is not great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is becoming very clear thar AI is already having a detrimental impact on jobs. The current administration wants to withhold regulation on AI for at least ten years per the BBB and just let it happen though this specific part was thankfully overturned so the states can regulate it.

Meanwhile, AI is already destroying jobs - even if initial losses are white collar, it will eventually impact blue collar jobs as well. The current administration seems to be using tariffs to fuel manufacturing job growth here, but this seems quite fruitless thus far relative to job losses and is just making household goods more expensive, taxing all of us.

Meanwhile, the data centers keep multiplying, use excessive electricity and water. Our power infrastructure cannot seem to support this and the current admin does not actually seem to want to make our electrical bills cheaper. They are halting renewable energy and investing in more expensive coal.

Lastly, the majority of the stock market gains are driven by a relatively small number of AI stocks; stock gains are no longer even correlated to job numbers. This appears to be a unsustainable bubble that will pop and tank everyone's retirement savings when it does.

This seems like a dystopian nightmare that impacts everyone; political affiliation does not matter. Furthermore, I see no evidence that the current administration even cares how this is impacting people.

People don’t matter to the administration and their tech bro friends. We’re just in the way sucking up electricity they’d much rather use for powering AI. (Can’t help but wonder if that’s the ultimate goal of cutting off SNAP and making health ins too pricey for most).

[Anonymous]

Get solar on your home. Even with the tax credits going away, they will end up net profitable within 5-6 years given skyrocketing electricity costs.

Folks in NoVA are going to get it so bad when it comes to sticker shock. Yall are absolutely f#cked.