Moderates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Why do you want to alienate people with a dumb comment like this?

PP’s goal is not to alienate. It is subdue and silence people.

LOL. I'm not that powerful. You all eschewed your abhorrent views on abortion on the other thread. "I had a medically necessary one, but nobody else should."

No idea what thread you are talking about, but you are definitely another authoritarian activist.

That's right, I'm against authoritarianism, which is why I marched last weekend and donate my big beautiful tax breaks to congressional and gubernatorial Dems candidates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Exactly!

This simply isn’t true. I strongly dislike Trump and the rest of his administration. Condemn the majority of what he does and how he operates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate these days. I hold pretty left wing values - I am anti racist, pro poor, pro reproductive rights. I worked for USAID before its destruction. But I am a moderate in that I am a pragmatist. I respect that other people disagree with me vehemently, and while I can believe they are wrong and harmful with every speck of my being…I still acknowledge their right to their opinions and to be equal participants in our democracy. And I can negotiate, discuss, and partner with them to find compromise that will give us each some of what we want, but not all. I have faith that doing things this way will result in gradual progress and stability, which I value more than having every bit of what I believe in now without compromise.

It's much easier to have your attitude about slow progress when you aren't the person actively suffering under the status quo. I think thats what people who smugly call themselves moderates, as though they are morally andmlogically superior to everyone else, don't seem to get.

You worked for USAID. You care about poor people. But you're not too vexed if policies are enacted that leave the recipients of USAID starving, because YOU have food, and can just calmly wait for slow progress. It doesn't make you better than people who find the situation a bit more urgent.

Did you miss the part where I worked for USAID? I’m unemployed. I may not be hungry, but I’m hardly unvexed by the current situation. People I love rely on medicaid and food stamps. People I love are trans. But yeah, I’m in my late 50’s and have watched the arc of history bend toward and away from justice, and I’m going to take a longer view while doing everything in my power to provide safety and comfort to those who are suffering because the world is still f’d up.

I do not think I am better than people who take a different approach or who push harder and faster. I think I’m more pragmatic, sure. But pragmatism isn’t some moral gold star. It takes all types to bring about change. It takes you, and it takes me. Can you drop your fighting stance for a sec, especially against people who agree with your policy positions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate these days. I hold pretty left wing values - I am anti racist, pro poor, pro reproductive rights. I worked for USAID before its destruction. But I am a moderate in that I am a pragmatist. I respect that other people disagree with me vehemently, and while I can believe they are wrong and harmful with every speck of my being…I still acknowledge their right to their opinions and to be equal participants in our democracy. And I can negotiate, discuss, and partner with them to find compromise that will give us each some of what we want, but not all. I have faith that doing things this way will result in gradual progress and stability, which I value more than having every bit of what I believe in now without compromise.

It's much easier to have your attitude about slow progress when you aren't the person actively suffering under the status quo. I think thats what people who smugly call themselves moderates, as though they are morally andmlogically superior to everyone else, don't seem to get.

You worked for USAID. You care about poor people. But you're not too vexed if policies are enacted that leave the recipients of USAID starving, because YOU have food, and can just calmly wait for slow progress. It doesn't make you better than people who find the situation a bit more urgent.

Did you miss the part where I worked for USAID? I’m unemployed. I may not be hungry, but I’m hardly unvexed by the current situation. People I love rely on medicaid and food stamps. People I love are trans. But yeah, I’m in my late 50’s and have watched the arc of history bend toward and away from justice, and I’m going to take a longer view while doing everything in my power to provide safety and comfort to those who are suffering because the world is still f’d up.

I do not think I am better than people who take a different approach or who push harder and faster. I think I’m more pragmatic, sure. But pragmatism isn’t some moral gold star. It takes all types to bring about change. It takes you, and it takes me. Can you drop your fighting stance for a sec, especially against people who agree with your policy positions?

Ah lookie so cute, you care about people far away, maybe you should move there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Why do you want to alienate people with a dumb comment like this?

PP’s goal is not to alienate. It is subdue and silence people.

LOL. I'm not that powerful. You all eschewed your abhorrent views on abortion on the other thread. "I had a medically necessary one, but nobody else should."

No idea what thread you are talking about, but you are definitely another authoritarian activist.

That's right, I'm against authoritarianism, which is why I marched last weekend and donate my big beautiful tax breaks to congressional and gubernatorial Dems candidates.

No. You are another authoritarian supporter. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

"Moderates" these days don't believe in the Constitution (maybe the 2nd.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Exactly!

This simply isn’t true. I strongly dislike Trump and the rest of his administration. Condemn the majority of what he does and how he operates.

Great, now how about the rest of the boot licking GOP who make Trump possible.

He could do all he has without their consent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Why do you want to alienate people with a dumb comment like this?

PP’s goal is not to alienate. It is subdue and silence people.

LOL. I'm not that powerful. You all eschewed your abhorrent views on abortion on the other thread. "I had a medically necessary one, but nobody else should."

No idea what thread you are talking about, but you are definitely another authoritarian activist.

That's right, I'm against authoritarianism, which is why I marched last weekend and donate my big beautiful tax breaks to congressional and gubernatorial Dems candidates.

No. You are another authoritarian supporter. Disgusting.

Strong words coming from a troll paid by Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Exactly!

This simply isn’t true. I strongly dislike Trump and the rest of his administration. Condemn the majority of what he does and how he operates.

Great, now how about the rest of the boot licking GOP who make Trump possible.

He could do all he has without their consent.

DP. Just because you like a different flavor than Trump, doesn’t mean you’re not a bootlicker yourself. Your attempts to paint pp into something they are not prove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Exactly!

This simply isn’t true. I strongly dislike Trump and the rest of his administration. Condemn the majority of what he does and how he operates.

Great, now how about the rest of the boot licking GOP who make Trump possible.

He could do all he has without their consent.

They could not have made Trump possible without the help of the tyrants on the left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:'m #2 also, I think the country still was and still is slightly right of center leaning.
Of course Gen Z is the future and they seem more willing to accept socialism.

gen Z wants social democracy, like Sweden.

MAGA likes socialism. Farm subsidies, govt having a stake in private companies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We already went over this this week. Moderates are MAGA who don’t want to admit it.

Why do you want to alienate people with a dumb comment like this?

PP’s goal is not to alienate. It is subdue and silence people.

LOL. I'm not that powerful. You all eschewed your abhorrent views on abortion on the other thread. "I had a medically necessary one, but nobody else should."

No idea what thread you are talking about, but you are definitely another authoritarian activist.

That's right, I'm against authoritarianism, which is why I marched last weekend and donate my big beautiful tax breaks to congressional and gubernatorial Dems candidates.

No. You are another authoritarian supporter. Disgusting.

Strong words coming from a troll paid by Iran.

You do enough to turn people off from democracy with all the hate you spew toward moderates and even fellow liberals. It will be interesting when Trump is out of office and you no longer have him to blame. Oh wait. We saw that already in the condemnation of Biden. Dems eating their own. Both parties suck. Yep, bOtH sIdEs. Actually, two sides with the major parties suck. Our country is a triangle and the only sane side is the third side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate these days. I hold pretty left wing values - I am anti racist, pro poor, pro reproductive rights. I worked for USAID before its destruction. But I am a moderate in that I am a pragmatist. I respect that other people disagree with me vehemently, and while I can believe they are wrong and harmful with every speck of my being…I still acknowledge their right to their opinions and to be equal participants in our democracy. And I can negotiate, discuss, and partner with them to find compromise that will give us each some of what we want, but not all. I have faith that doing things this way will result in gradual progress and stability, which I value more than having every bit of what I believe in now without compromise.

It's much easier to have your attitude about slow progress when you aren't the person actively suffering under the status quo. I think thats what people who smugly call themselves moderates, as though they are morally andmlogically superior to everyone else, don't seem to get.

You worked for USAID. You care about poor people. But you're not too vexed if policies are enacted that leave the recipients of USAID starving, because YOU have food, and can just calmly wait for slow progress. It doesn't make you better than people who find the situation a bit more urgent.

Did you miss the part where I worked for USAID? I’m unemployed. I may not be hungry, but I’m hardly unvexed by the current situation. People I love rely on medicaid and food stamps. People I love are trans. But yeah, I’m in my late 50’s and have watched the arc of history bend toward and away from justice, and I’m going to take a longer view while doing everything in my power to provide safety and comfort to those who are suffering because the world is still f’d up.

I do not think I am better than people who take a different approach or who push harder and faster. I think I’m more pragmatic, sure. But pragmatism isn’t some moral gold star. It takes all types to bring about change. It takes you, and it takes me. Can you drop your fighting stance for a sec, especially against people who agree with your policy positions?

No I will not drop my fighting stance. I find your moralizing about pragmatism offensive while people that look like me and live like me are in a fight for our lives. I'm sure we do agree on a lot. So maybe drop your stance of superiority?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate these days. I hold pretty left wing values - I am anti racist, pro poor, pro reproductive rights. I worked for USAID before its destruction. But I am a moderate in that I am a pragmatist. I respect that other people disagree with me vehemently, and while I can believe they are wrong and harmful with every speck of my being…I still acknowledge their right to their opinions and to be equal participants in our democracy. And I can negotiate, discuss, and partner with them to find compromise that will give us each some of what we want, but not all. I have faith that doing things this way will result in gradual progress and stability, which I value more than having every bit of what I believe in now without compromise.

It's much easier to have your attitude about slow progress when you aren't the person actively suffering under the status quo. I think thats what people who smugly call themselves moderates, as though they are morally andmlogically superior to everyone else, don't seem to get.

You worked for USAID. You care about poor people. But you're not too vexed if policies are enacted that leave the recipients of USAID starving, because YOU have food, and can just calmly wait for slow progress. It doesn't make you better than people who find the situation a bit more urgent.

Did you miss the part where I worked for USAID? I’m unemployed. I may not be hungry, but I’m hardly unvexed by the current situation. People I love rely on medicaid and food stamps. People I love are trans. But yeah, I’m in my late 50’s and have watched the arc of history bend toward and away from justice, and I’m going to take a longer view while doing everything in my power to provide safety and comfort to those who are suffering because the world is still f’d up.

I do not think I am better than people who take a different approach or who push harder and faster. I think I’m more pragmatic, sure. But pragmatism isn’t some moral gold star. It takes all types to bring about change. It takes you, and it takes me. Can you drop your fighting stance for a sec, especially against people who agree with your policy positions?

Those policies put you in the Left/progressive camp.