Woke is not negative

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That’s exactly correct OP. It is also why MAGA and Republicans are seeking to destroy public education, particularly science, history, and critical thinking skills. Same for the MAGA-Republican crusade against top colleges and universities. The MAGA base is largely uneducated and therefore controllable. Republicans want to force the rest of the U.S. into the same dumb and incapable state. Then the wealthiest, who can afford private education, will hold the power and control the masses.

It’s a time-tested recipe for a society run by a small, rich, educated elite over the poor uneducated masses. Republicans have used social issues to fool MAGA into thinking these changes will benefit them. It’s sad for those suckers but the rest of us need to ensure it doesnt happen to the rest of us and our kids.


Not much left to destroy since school stopped with phonics, spelling, allowing close enough answers in math (eg, 1+1=3), school boards focuses on issues other than education, etc. The Dems do not have the high ground in education. Neither party deserves respect. Only people who don’t think believe in and trust the blue/red party.
Anonymous
The term was hijacked by the GOP. Most people know the real definition. And agree, most people view it as positive. MAGA wants to ignore racism and misogyny, pretend it doesn’t happen. But those of us who deal with it know it’s there. MAGA campaign doesn’t change lived experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The term was hijacked by the GOP. Most people know the real definition. And agree, most people view it as positive. MAGA wants to ignore racism and misogyny, pretend it doesn’t happen. But those of us who deal with it know it’s there. MAGA campaign doesn’t change lived experience.
+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Woke is about advocating for all the groups you don’t want in your neighborhood.


I’ve never seen such an accurate and succinct definition for “woke” before. Well done.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woke are elitists who don’t care about reality, don’t care about the actual suffering of the working class, are happy to virtue signal for each other and will quickly cancel anyone who steps out of line. They are hypocrites with no principles.


Reality meaning your reality of wanting to keep women, brown people, gay people, etc in their place so you can continue to flourish with your white privilege? Or what exactly do you mean by suffering of the working class? How is being educated and aware of social injustice causing you to suffer?


Reality meaning:

Men are not women.
Having men in women’s sports, locker rooms, and prison’s is dangerous and damaging to women.
Allowing millions of illegals into the country is bad for working class wages.
Providing illegals with housing and financial support is disheartening to the working class who struggle without these supports.
A focus on equity in schools instead of outcomes is damaging to bright poor kids who benefit from standardized testing.

Just a few items off the top of my head.


All the white women coming out to argue against DEI because they still don’t know they were the largest beneficiaries.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Trump has gotten millions of Christians to hate Jesus. I mean it's brilliant, and so cruel, if you think about it.


If people followed what Jesus actually said and did, most Christians will find that they're not following what he said.

And they will find that the liberal hippie Jesus wasn't very tolerant either.


Way to prove my point. Bravo! 👏👏👏
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That’s exactly correct OP. It is also why MAGA and Republicans are seeking to destroy public education, particularly science, history, and critical thinking skills. Same for the MAGA-Republican crusade against top colleges and universities. The MAGA base is largely uneducated and therefore controllable. Republicans want to force the rest of the U.S. into the same dumb and incapable state. Then the wealthiest, who can afford private education, will hold the power and control the masses.

It’s a time-tested recipe for a society run by a small, rich, educated elite over the poor uneducated masses. Republicans have used social issues to fool MAGA into thinking these changes will benefit them. It’s sad for those suckers but the rest of us need to ensure it doesnt happen to the rest of us and our kids.


Not much left to destroy since school stopped with phonics, spelling, allowing close enough answers in math (eg, 1+1=3), school boards focuses on issues other than education, etc. The Dems do not have the high ground in education. Neither party deserves respect. Only people who don’t think believe in and trust the blue/red party.


You're quite full of misinformation.

There is zero evidence that the Democratic Party promotes ditching phonics or spelling instruction. In fact, Democratic-led education initiatives like the Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA) emphasize literacy, evidence-based instruction, and academic standards.

As for math, no mainstream Democratic platform supports “close enough” answers like 1+1=3. That’s a strawman argument used to mock progressive education reforms, but it has no basis in actual policy.

Local school boards and state education departments control curriculum standards, not national political parties. That means any shift away from phonics or traditional math methods is typically a local decision, often driven by pedagogical trends or district-level experimentation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That’s exactly correct OP. It is also why MAGA and Republicans are seeking to destroy public education, particularly science, history, and critical thinking skills. Same for the MAGA-Republican crusade against top colleges and universities. The MAGA base is largely uneducated and therefore controllable. Republicans want to force the rest of the U.S. into the same dumb and incapable state. Then the wealthiest, who can afford private education, will hold the power and control the masses.

It’s a time-tested recipe for a society run by a small, rich, educated elite over the poor uneducated masses. Republicans have used social issues to fool MAGA into thinking these changes will benefit them. It’s sad for those suckers but the rest of us need to ensure it doesnt happen to the rest of us and our kids.


Not much left to destroy since school stopped with phonics, spelling, allowing close enough answers in math (eg, 1+1=3), school boards focuses on issues other than education, etc. The Dems do not have the high ground in education. Neither party deserves respect. Only people who don’t think believe in and trust the blue/red party.


Blaming "the Dems" for every perceived flaw in education is lazy and inaccurate. If someone wants to critique curriculum trends, great, talk pedagogy. But you're ludicrous to suggest national parties are micromanaging spelling tests or telling kids 1+1=3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That’s exactly correct OP. It is also why MAGA and Republicans are seeking to destroy public education, particularly science, history, and critical thinking skills. Same for the MAGA-Republican crusade against top colleges and universities. The MAGA base is largely uneducated and therefore controllable. Republicans want to force the rest of the U.S. into the same dumb and incapable state. Then the wealthiest, who can afford private education, will hold the power and control the masses.

It’s a time-tested recipe for a society run by a small, rich, educated elite over the poor uneducated masses. Republicans have used social issues to fool MAGA into thinking these changes will benefit them. It’s sad for those suckers but the rest of us need to ensure it doesnt happen to the rest of us and our kids.


Not much left to destroy since school stopped with phonics, spelling, allowing close enough answers in math (eg, 1+1=3), school boards focuses on issues other than education, etc. The Dems do not have the high ground in education. Neither party deserves respect. Only people who don’t think believe in and trust the blue/red party.


Should we talk about what your MAGA side is doing to education? Red states have the poorest educational outcomes in America. Red states are ignoring reading and math proficiency while promoting Christian prayer, revisionist history and science denial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That’s exactly correct OP. It is also why MAGA and Republicans are seeking to destroy public education, particularly science, history, and critical thinking skills. Same for the MAGA-Republican crusade against top colleges and universities. The MAGA base is largely uneducated and therefore controllable. Republicans want to force the rest of the U.S. into the same dumb and incapable state. Then the wealthiest, who can afford private education, will hold the power and control the masses.

It’s a time-tested recipe for a society run by a small, rich, educated elite over the poor uneducated masses. Republicans have used social issues to fool MAGA into thinking these changes will benefit them. It’s sad for those suckers but the rest of us need to ensure it doesnt happen to the rest of us and our kids.


Not much left to destroy since school stopped with phonics, spelling, allowing close enough answers in math (eg, 1+1=3), school boards focuses on issues other than education, etc. The Dems do not have the high ground in education. Neither party deserves respect. Only people who don’t think believe in and trust the blue/red party.


Should we talk about what your MAGA side is doing to education? Red states have the poorest educational outcomes in America. Red states are ignoring reading and math proficiency while promoting Christian prayer, revisionist history and science denial.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/education/kids-reading-scores-have-soared-in-mississippi-miracle

Personally in my quickly deteriorating deep blue woke school district, I’d be happy to have a little of this red.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Woke is about advocating for all the groups you don’t want in your neighborhood.


I’ve never seen such an accurate and succinct definition for “woke” before. Well done.


+1

That was a work of art.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MAGA stole the term and uses it negatively. Do they even know what it really means? It is simply someone who is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice, prejudice, oppression and inequality. So they dont want to be informed and educated? We are evil and wrong to be informed and educated about society? We let MAGA steal this word and use it negatively just like we let them steal the American flag as if it only represents them.


if you are spending your time debating the definitions of words, you are the problem. leading by doing, not by quibbling
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Woke is about advocating for all the groups you don’t want in your neighborhood.


I don't mind living in a neighborhood with white women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woke are elitists who don’t care about reality, don’t care about the actual suffering of the working class, are happy to virtue signal for each other and will quickly cancel anyone who steps out of line. They are hypocrites with no principles.


Reality meaning your reality of wanting to keep women, brown people, gay people, etc in their place so you can continue to flourish with your white privilege? Or what exactly do you mean by suffering of the working class? How is being educated and aware of social injustice causing you to suffer?


Reality meaning:

Men are not women.
Having men in women’s sports, locker rooms, and prison’s is dangerous and damaging to women.
Allowing millions of illegals into the country is bad for working class wages.
Providing illegals with housing and financial support is disheartening to the working class who struggle without these supports.
A focus on equity in schools instead of outcomes is damaging to bright poor kids who benefit from standardized testing.

Just a few items off the top of my head.


Mass shootings, unaffordable healthcare, and the GOP’s assault on birth control and abortion access pose far greater threats to women than trans athletes ever will. But instead of addressing those real dangers, you cling to culture war distractions and block every attempt at reform.

Your claim about "illegals hurting wages" ignores basic economics. Most undocumented immigrants work jobs Americans won’t touch: agriculture, meatpacking, elder care, because wages are low and conditions are brutal. The solution isn’t mass deportation (which is tanking small businesses and driving up consumer costs), it’s a functional work visa system. But you won’t allow that either.

And on education? Democrats aren’t banning phonics or pushing “close enough” math. That’s fiction. Meanwhile, red states rank at the bottom in academic outcomes, push revisionist history, deny climate science, and replace curriculum with prayer. You say you care about outcomes, but your policies scream otherwise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MAGA stole the term and uses it negatively. Do they even know what it really means? It is simply someone who is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice, prejudice, oppression and inequality. So they dont want to be informed and educated? We are evil and wrong to be informed and educated about society? We let MAGA steal this word and use it negatively just like we let them steal the American flag as if it only represents them.


Maybe you could start a protest movement to take back the word. Go march around in circles or block a highway or metro train line so no one can get to work in the morning. That’s the ticket.
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