Cornell WashU UChicago |
+1 when 85% get B or above no one's gpa is ruined. You really have to not try at all to get a C. A couple of B here and there is completely fine for premed GPA. Plus upper level sciences are curved a bit higher. |
Meh, I don’t think this is across-the-board true. If you had the stats to get a free ride to Bama, then you had a good SAT/ACT score and should be able to do well enough in the pre-med classes. GPA and MCAT score are the primary factors to getting into a MD program. You can make it known on the app that you got a free ride to Bama. |
UChicago has median around a B or B+ for intro chem, orgo, calc etc. WashU sets the average to right between a B and B+ for all sections for most intro science classes. Less than 25% get Cs in intro, almost no one in upperlevels. Cornell is more like a B and sometimes B- but still the average GPA has trended up the past 4 years, like all top schools. |
WashU? |
No no no |
+1 They also have a medical campus and med school. That matters. Not only can most people not afford tuition for undergrad and professional school, the awful bill that just passed capped loans. Unless you were born into wealth, it’s a great way to get into med school without drowning yourself in more debt. |
GPA and MCAT scores are very important, but I wouldn't call them "primary" factors. You need to have a complete pkg - GPA, MCAT, volunteering, clinical experience, research, strong LOR... |
the best place to go for premed is a place where you can get good grades and appropriate shadowing and other requirements for a good application. |
Here is the problem, not specifically directed at Bama. Recently as part of med school consulting we had a client with very poor MCAT scores after months of study and a review course, with subscores in the chem and biochem areas significantly lower than the other two. The student went to a non-flagship public ranked in Top75 that is very popular for DMV to attend out of state. They had received a B in organic chem and a A- in biochem, B in physics. never got a C. They did not recall covering half of the topics in the Kaplan review section for Ochem and biochem. They knew some basics but could not apply the knowledge to the questions. Their tests were mostly reaction recall, not application problems. We ask SAT scores; they were approaching the 75th%ile for this college. The student had the background to be capable but did not have a rigorous college coursework despite the great gpa. Our group of docs have experience on admissions of med schools, average to top ones. premed courses are not the same everywhere. MCAT prep takes a lot longer and can go very wrong when you do not have a solid understanding of the basics. |
When compared to grades at Yale or Brown, yes those 3 deflate grades |
indeed. But compared to UCB they inflate |
I completely believe this and also why it bothers me when people claim is orgo (for example) is same everywhere as same material. Mine is at a T10, the exams are insanely difficult, there is absolutely no way it is same level of difficulty everywhere. The exams require deep understanding and application. It’s also why it’s stated top schools with very high average MCAT’s also require a small fraction of the test prep time. |
Indeed, but the specific listed schools were provided in response to someone who said, “ Name the school, no top school has DEflation.” That is 100% incorrect. |
Source? This is your opinion. |