Why are modern day billionaires narcissistic sociopaths?

[Anonymous]

I am tangentially around some extremely wealthy people.
I can’t express to you how disappointing they are. They aren’t intellectuals. They are singularly gifted. They are good are making money. That’s it.
Also, you’ve never met a group more aggrieved than the extremely rich.
Honestly every time I hear someone say, “ we need a good business man to run the country”, ( and that’s become common “wisdom” now) I realize we are in a truly hopeless place as a nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look back to the 20th century, the robber barons and industrial leaders were certainly not saints. But there seemed to be a compulsion to give back through philanthropy, and at least set an example of civilized behavior. We can think of the Rockefeller Foundation, Ford Foundation, Carnegie Library, etc.

Now our business leaders are sociopathic nut jobs. Musk, Bezos, Trump, Zuckerberg…. They give back nothing and seem to want to squash and devour the middle class. Only Bill Gates has developed a significant philanthropic effort.

Is this generational, or does extreme wealth now corrupt in a way that wasn’t possible before? I think Bezos is an interesting case. You can see video interviews with him from the early 1990’s and he’s a regular, pleasant guy. Now he thinks nothing of renting out and entire city and wrecking the lives of anyone who gets in his way.

This was really difficult to research, OP.

https://onlyearthlings.com/15-billionaires-who-pledged-to-give-away-most-of-their-wealth/




You didn't mention Bloomberg, but you just had to mention Trump. Why?

Can you please do Soros?

[Anonymous]

Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

[Anonymous]

There will always be dysfunctional members of society in some shape or form re: motivations for wealth/power and the ethical responsibilities that come with accumulating both. Agree with the PP who said the concern is when 1 singular person can change the entire trajectory of the world. Ideally a construct of checks and balances should limit individual power. Unfortunately our system has flaws too. I dont know if there is a perfect system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what their motives are. What really matters is what will the rest of us do about it? We need to tax them until they become mere millionaires. No individual should have that much wealth/power because it is inherently a threat to all other life on earth.

You act like you have a right to other people's private property. You don't.

It's a global economy and money goes where it's treated well.

- back to your jealousy induced winefest -

Ha. Where do you think they got their money? Elon would have nothing but his inheritance if not for government money. That money is OURS.

Trump made his money running one con after another and threatening people who tried to hold him accountable. The man is built on fraud.

Have some self-respect, man. Quit fawning over these frauds.

That money is NOT yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares what their motives are. What really matters is what will the rest of us do about it? We need to tax them until they become mere millionaires. No individual should have that much wealth/power because it is inherently a threat to all other life on earth.

You act like you have a right to other people's private property. You don't.

It's a global economy and money goes where it's treated well.

- back to your jealousy induced winefest -

They didn't "earn" all that property without the hard work and sweat of other people. These people don't singularly generate all that wealth. They step all over the people that work for them to get there. F them. They owe society.

You are not owed anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I live my life. They live theirs. I do not sit around all day being jealous like half of DCUM.

Live your life and stop worrying about others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am tangentially around some extremely wealthy people.
I can’t express to you how disappointing they are. They aren’t intellectuals. They are singularly gifted. They are good are making money. That’s it.
Also, you’ve never met a group more aggrieved than the extremely rich.
Honestly every time I hear someone say, “ we need a good business man to run the country”, ( and that’s become common “wisdom” now) I realize we are in a truly hopeless place as a nation.

But it was OK for Joe Biden to bail out banks when they defaulted, huh? Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank and a third that I can't recall the name of. Or, was that one of his staffers and he didn't even know he bailed them out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Idk about Musk but Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Bloomberg, the Waltons and others donate billions to charity. Now you might think that’s not enough and want them taxed more, but there is too much discourse seeking to demonize others. The talk around Bezos’s wedding was especially ott considering they paid for all services and donated millions to the city. There have always been rich people who liked grandiose displays of wealth throughout history, it’s not new. And most did not care about poor people at all.

Oh they’ve pledged to give it away, but there’s zero evidence that Bezos and Zuckerberg have already given away billions. I doubt the waltons have either. They have the museum. They have like 4 billionaires in their family. Work in philanthropy to know how this plays out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I live my life. They live theirs. I do not sit around all day being jealous like half of DCUM.

Live your life and stop worrying about others.

The world is a worse place because of billionaires and people like you who "stop worrying about others." You must be in an incredibly privileged place to be able to tune out the rest of the world who are less fortunate than you but I thank god every day I'm not a soulless husk like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tangentially around some extremely wealthy people.
I can’t express to you how disappointing they are. They aren’t intellectuals. They are singularly gifted. They are good are making money. That’s it.
Also, you’ve never met a group more aggrieved than the extremely rich.
Honestly every time I hear someone say, “ we need a good business man to run the country”, ( and that’s become common “wisdom” now) I realize we are in a truly hopeless place as a nation.

But it was OK for Joe Biden to bail out banks when they defaulted, huh? Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank and a third that I can't recall the name of. Or, was that one of his staffers and he didn't even know he bailed them out?

WTF are you talking about? How is this responsive to what is written above? I swear to god this forum has gotten functionally illiterate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I live my life. They live theirs. I do not sit around all day being jealous like half of DCUM.

Live your life and stop worrying about others.

The world is a worse place because of billionaires and people like you who "stop worrying about others." You must be in an incredibly privileged place to be able to tune out the rest of the world who are less fortunate than you but I thank god every day I'm not a soulless husk like you.

DP. I have had terrible circumstances that I dont broadcast, but I dont care too much about the success of billionaires either. I care more about the struggles others have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I live my life. They live theirs. I do not sit around all day being jealous like half of DCUM.

Live your life and stop worrying about others.

Except billionaires “living their life” involves them buying the US government, wrecking labor unions and suppressing wages, and destroying the environment. So their actions directly affect my quality of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you don't gather enough wealth to become a billionaire unless you are a narcissistic sociopath.

Normal people like you and I have a number after which we'd either relax and enjoy our wealth or if we especially enjoy the way we build that wealth, keep working but put the excess wealth into making the world a better place.

For some of us, that number is pretty low. Maybe just enough to buy a little cottage in the woods somewhere so they can read books and sip tea while never having to worry about working again. There are a lot of people practicing FIRE for exactly that reason who are perfectly content to stop working after a million or two. For others it's higher, maybe 10 or 20 million so they can enjoy more luxuries and travel.

Once you start getting higher than that is where the normal people start dropping out. By the time you get to the hundreds of millions and billions you have weeded out all the normal people and are only left with people who are so broken that there is no number at which they will stop. It's a sickness, a pathological obsession.

This is why billionaires should not exist. Simply by amassing that level of wealth you have proven to society that you're not fit to have it, because if you were you would have given it away or stopped hoarding already.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I live my life. They live theirs. I do not sit around all day being jealous like half of DCUM.

Live your life and stop worrying about others.

The world is a worse place because of billionaires and people like you who "stop worrying about others." You must be in an incredibly privileged place to be able to tune out the rest of the world who are less fortunate than you but I thank god every day I'm not a soulless husk like you.

DP. I have had terrible circumstances that I dont broadcast, but I dont care too much about the success of billionaires either. I care more about the struggles others have.

Np- like the struggles of the babies born with HIV and are starving to death in Africa? Those innocents that depended USAID to survive, but one single billionaire decided they didn’t have a right to live?