Trump admits migrant crackdown hurts farmers, hospitality workers, says change is coming

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

Then we need to start paying what it actually costs to produce food, and the government needs to stop subsidizing the wrong foods, like corn, soy and, indirectly, sugar.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

There aren't the unemployed numbers needed to slot into these roles. But child labor, right? Your post is beyond naive.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

There aren't the unemployed numbers needed to slot into these roles. But child labor, right? Your post is beyond naive.

Lol calling me naive while you squawk propaganda at me. You actually believe we dont have enough workers here to feed ourselves? The agricultural and hotel industries actually need to bring in foreign workers that conveniently cost much less than American workers? You believe that?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

Then we need to start paying what it actually costs to produce food, and the government needs to stop subsidizing the wrong foods, like corn, soy and, indirectly, sugar.

I don't disagree with you. It's a complex and layered issue. Much more complex and layered than just importing slaves. So America does what America does, and instead of untangling a complex issue, we just import slaves and call them criminals.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

Dude, the president himself is importing "foreign workers to exploit." The rot starts at the top. Why don't you call the White House to register your complaint?

At the same time, the Trump Organization has consistently made use of temporary visa programs to hire foreign workers for Mar-a-Lago, four golf clubs and his Virginia winery—filing to bring in at least 1,880 seasonal workers since 2008, including 382 during Trump’s first term, according to Department of Labor data.

The company’s use of short-term, temporary visas has increased steadily in recent years, from requesting 121 in 2021 to asking for a high of 178 in 2024.

The jobs—primarily servers, clerks, housekeepers, kitchen staff and farm workers—pay between $14.17 and $23.01 an hour.

Trump Org Keeps Bringing In Foreign Workers To Staff Its Clubs And Winery
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/06/12/trump-organization-foreign-workers-visa-hiring-mar-a-lago-golf-clubs-winery/

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At the end of a long week dominated by the Trump administration’s anti-immigration crackdown—and nationwide protests mounted in response to targeted Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids—the president has suddenly reversed course.

In a truly stunning about-face, The New York Times reports that Trump has instructed ICE officials to pause any raids on the agriculture and hospitality industries. It’s a move that suggests the president’s hardline stance was costing him support in key industries, and with constituents he does not want to lose

https://www.thedailybeast.com/taco-trump-caves-on-his-own-immigration-plan-in-stunning-reversal/

Taco! Why are Marines still on the streets of LA? What an idiot. Hey MAGA Trump just granted illegals criminals permanent legal status! MAGA is full of sh#t.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

Then we need to start paying what it actually costs to produce food, and the government needs to stop subsidizing the wrong foods, like corn, soy and, indirectly, sugar.

I don't disagree with you. It's a complex and layered issue. Much more complex and layered than just importing slaves. So America does what America does, and instead of untangling a complex issue, we just import slaves and call them criminals.

This is what kills me about this whole thing. Every single person in America has directly or indirectly participated in the system that holds up the migrant worker situation. It’s America’s worst kept secret. There is zero social pressure for businesses to not hire undocumented immigrants, if anything it’s the other way around to keep prices low. The farmers, the construction companies, the Nannys, the house keepers, the nail salon workers. Everyone knows and nobody bats an eye at it in their everyday lives. Then they get called criminals for participating in a system that Americans, especially the wealthy and business class, are happy to partake in.

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Anonymous wrote:Now Trump says it is unfair to target immigrants farmer worker because it hurt wealthy maga farmers. The same for hotel industry including golf courses. So he thinks removing those migrants should stop. If only he could convince the people doing this to stop! Deep state in action.

President Donald Trump admitted that his increasingly aggressive immigration crackdown is hurting farmers and the hotel and leisure industry and said "common sense" changes are coming.

The president's comments drew praise from Arizona agriculture and hospitality leaders, who have long complained about chronic labor shortages and the need for Congress to pass immigration reforms that would allow more immigrants to enter the country legally, rather than illegally, to fill jobs many Americans are unwilling to do.

Trump posted on Truth Social on June 12 that farmers and people in the hospitality and leisure industries have said that "our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace."

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Trump said during a news conference later in the day that an order is coming that would help farmers and the hotel and leisure industry hold onto their workers, without providing specifics.

"We're going to have an order on that pretty soon I think we can't do that to our farmers and leisure too hotels. We're gonna have to use a lot of common sense on that," Trump said.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2025/06/13/trump-admits-immigration-crackdown-hurts-hospitality-farm-workers/84176114007/

taco!

Also little to no enforcement or raids in red sanctuary states of Texas and Florida.

Everyone put on your best shocked face.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

U.S. immigration policy is dysfunctional and exploitive because that is the way the conservative business establishment wants it to be. They get their way by funding fake populist Republican politicians and manipulating bigots and other right-wing populists to blame the immigrants and other oppressed workers for labor policies obviously designed to serve the interests of conservative business owners.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

There aren't the unemployed numbers needed to slot into these roles. But child labor, right? Your post is beyond naive.

Lol calling me naive while you squawk propaganda at me. You actually believe we dont have enough workers here to feed ourselves? The agricultural and hotel industries actually need to bring in foreign workers that conveniently cost much less than American workers? You believe that?

Sure. There’s a big unemployed population out there (or willing to leave their jobs) to do hard seasonal labor working the fields if only the price was right. And, of course, the consumers are sitting there ready to pay even higher grocery prices. If only you were in charge of this fantasy land…

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

There aren't the unemployed numbers needed to slot into these roles. But child labor, right? Your post is beyond naive.

Lol calling me naive while you squawk propaganda at me. You actually believe we dont have enough workers here to feed ourselves? The agricultural and hotel industries actually need to bring in foreign workers that conveniently cost much less than American workers? You believe that?

Sure. There’s a big unemployed population out there (or willing to leave their jobs) to do hard seasonal labor working the fields if only the price was right. And, of course, the consumers are sitting there ready to pay even higher grocery prices. If only you were in charge of this fantasy land…

Like I said to another poster, I understand that it's a layered and complex issue that would take a lot of different approaches to untangle. I just don't think continuing to import foreign labor to be exploited so we the industries can keep profiting and we can continue enjoying artifically low prices is THE solution we should go with.

It upsets me to hear one side argue that these people are criminals and monsters who deserve to be rounded up like cattle, and the other side arguing for them to be able to stay in order to continue be exploited for economic reasons. Surely there are solutions that can benefit American workers, and that don't involve exploiting poor foreigners just trying to survive like everyone else. It's just those solutions don't benefit big business, so of course it's a non-starter. I tire of us constantly pretending that we don't know the root of these problems and thus their solutions. We have a wealth hoarding and exploitation problem masquerading as an immigration problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Also, migrants must buy seasonal health insurance and cannot receive any public assistance. No birthright citizenship for any kids born in the US while on a migrant visa.

You come, you work, and you leave. Everyone wins.

Heaven forbid we hire American workers.

These seasonal cheap labor jobs have only ever been done by migrants, poor recent immigrants, or oppressed minorities. They are shitty jobs with low pay and bad working conditions that Americans with any other option would never do.

Then THAT is the issue we should be trying to solve. NOT making it allowable to import foreign workers to exploit. Maybe they shouldn't be shitty jobs with shitty pay that no American is willing to do. If we were truly about free markets, those jobs should go undone until the employers get their act together and start paying real wages. Allowing them to import people we all allow them to underpay is not a solution.

There aren't the unemployed numbers needed to slot into these roles. But child labor, right? Your post is beyond naive.

Lol calling me naive while you squawk propaganda at me. You actually believe we dont have enough workers here to feed ourselves? The agricultural and hotel industries actually need to bring in foreign workers that conveniently cost much less than American workers? You believe that?

Sure. There’s a big unemployed population out there (or willing to leave their jobs) to do hard seasonal labor working the fields if only the price was right. And, of course, the consumers are sitting there ready to pay even higher grocery prices. If only you were in charge of this fantasy land…

Like I said to another poster, I understand that it's a layered and complex issue that would take a lot of different approaches to untangle. I just don't think continuing to import foreign labor to be exploited so we the industries can keep profiting and we can continue enjoying artifically low prices is THE solution we should go with.

It upsets me to hear one side argue that these people are criminals and monsters who deserve to be rounded up like cattle, and the other side arguing for them to be able to stay in order to continue be exploited for economic reasons. Surely there are solutions that can benefit American workers, and that don't involve exploiting poor foreigners just trying to survive like everyone else. It's just those solutions don't benefit big business, so of course it's a non-starter. I tire of us constantly pretending that we don't know the root of these problems and thus their solutions. We have a wealth hoarding and exploitation problem masquerading as an immigration problem.

Trump put marines on the streets of a US city to round up immigrants and US citizens. The only monsters are maga, federal law enforcement and the Trump administration.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a seasonal migrant visa program - but one where the visa holders do not count for purposes of electoral college votes, Congressional seats, and federal funds? Migrants who were here illegally and deported go to the back of the line for a green card. Any migrant who is convicted of a felony is barred from the US forever.

Welcome to the start of your education.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/migrantfarmworkers

The problem is that Democrats want amnesty and a path to citizenship for all of the illegals that are currently here. Let's agree that will never happen and we can go from there.