Prestige + Georgetown

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

No, I'd say it's a tier below that 'next level'. (I'd add Chicago to that group, BTW.) Still a wonderful school.

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Georgetown didn’t seriously plan to grow the endowment until the 1970’s when it stood at $37 million. It just wasn’t a priority for the better part of its history.

It is now close to $4 billion having surpassed about 40 other universities and colleges in the rankings just in the last 5 years.

So despite getting late into the game of fund raising, they have made a focused effort to invest in the future while fulfilling its mission of attracting a demographically diverse study body committing close to $300 million/year to financial aid. I believe Harvard offers about $350-400 million/year to financial aid by comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has the smallest endowment per student of the top Catholic schools(ND, Holy Cross and Georgetown). It reflects less school spirit than ND and HC and also more alums go in public service. The comments by Georgetown boosters imo reflects the false elitism and exaggerated prestige they give Gtown. No horse in this race, but from my circle of associates grads from ND and Holy Cross outperform the Hoyas. Barely top 25 and their hoops team has been weak for over 30 years. ND has a top 10 endowment and money matters for colleges those that say otherwise see how far a zero balance in your checking account gets you at the local store.

The Holy Cross booster on this board is persistent!

HC is a great place, but is not in the top three of US Catholic schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has the smallest endowment per student of the top Catholic schools(ND, Holy Cross and Georgetown). It reflects less school spirit than ND and HC and also more alums go in public service. The comments by Georgetown boosters imo reflects the false elitism and exaggerated prestige they give Gtown. No horse in this race, but from my circle of associates grads from ND and Holy Cross outperform the Hoyas. Barely top 25 and their hoops team has been weak for over 30 years. ND has a top 10 endowment and money matters for colleges those that say otherwise see how far a zero balance in your checking account gets you at the local store.

The Holy Cross booster on this board is persistent!

HC is a great place, but is not in the top three of US Catholic schools.

It’s definitely in the top 4…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has the smallest endowment per student of the top Catholic schools(ND, Holy Cross and Georgetown). It reflects less school spirit than ND and HC and also more alums go in public service. The comments by Georgetown boosters imo reflects the false elitism and exaggerated prestige they give Gtown. No horse in this race, but from my circle of associates grads from ND and Holy Cross outperform the Hoyas. Barely top 25 and their hoops team has been weak for over 30 years. ND has a top 10 endowment and money matters for colleges those that say otherwise see how far a zero balance in your checking account gets you at the local store.

The Holy Cross booster on this board is persistent!

HC is a great place, but is not in the top three of US Catholic schools.

Agreed. I immediately began to ignore their post when they batched HC in with Georgetown and ND. ND likely is more "prestigious" than Georgetown. HC is a distant third. I am not saying this to hate on HC. Good school. But in a different league. I'm sure they will respond by cherry picking stats but overall, it isn't close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

No I'd put it above BC and Holy Cross, and definitely above ND for certain majors like SFS.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is behind of Georgetown. ND is the weakest school in the T25 academically. Georgetown has SFS.
Georgetown's peers are Emory, Vandy, WashU, Rice, CMU

Very hard to compare Georgetown to any of the schools above or the Ivies. It’s in its own category with its geography, programs and Jesuit affiliation. One reason why rankings/prestige should be taken with a grain or salt.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is behind of Georgetown. ND is the weakest school in the T25 academically. Georgetown has SFS.
Georgetown's peers are Emory, Vandy, WashU, Rice, CMU

Very hard to compare Georgetown to any of the schools above or the Ivies. It’s in its own category with its geography, programs and Jesuit affiliation. One reason why rankings/prestige should be taken with a grain or salt.

Not it isn't. Every school has unique aspects and a couple of programs that stand above the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

The entire concept of "prestige" in higher education is absurd. If I were interviewing candidates for a position, I would be more impressed with someone from a disadvantaged background who had to work his/her way thru community college and excelled academically than I would be with someone who attended elite private high school, did EXACTLY what he/she was told, and got into one of the schools being ranked here as prestigious. What does that even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

Unless one is a football fan or has issues with Jesuits, there aren't too many who would choose ND over Georgetown if interested in liberal arts, interntional/domestic politics etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has the smallest endowment per student of the top Catholic schools(ND, Holy Cross and Georgetown). It reflects less school spirit than ND and HC and also more alums go in public service. The comments by Georgetown boosters imo reflects the false elitism and exaggerated prestige they give Gtown. No horse in this race, but from my circle of associates grads from ND and Holy Cross outperform the Hoyas. Barely top 25 and their hoops team has been weak for over 30 years. ND has a top 10 endowment and money matters for colleges those that say otherwise see how far a zero balance in your checking account gets you at the local store.

The Holy Cross booster on this board is persistent!

HC is a great place, but is not in the top three of US Catholic schools.

It’s definitely in the top 4…

Nope

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

Unless one is a football fan or has issues with Jesuits, there aren't too many who would choose ND over Georgetown if interested in liberal arts, interntional/domestic politics etc.

Laughable comment. The two schools are direct competitors for students and both schools are filled with kids who also got into the other.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

Unless one is a football fan or has issues with Jesuits, there aren't too many who would choose ND over Georgetown if interested in liberal arts, interntional/domestic politics etc.

Laughable comment. The two schools are direct competitors for students and both schools are filled with kids who also got into the other.

As a non-Catholic, I'd say that when I hear Notre Dame, I think Catholic. When I hear Georgetown, I think of DC.
My point being that ND is more closely-aligned with the Catholic church. I would bet that that there are few non-Catholics at ND while there are plenty of non-Catholics at Georgetown. I think this affects the perception of the schools - one being religious, the other not.

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As far as I’m concerned it’s a top school. The kids I know going there are friggin geniuses. Some of the kids rejected also geniuses.

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Interesting that ND isn’t Jesuit like Georgetown and Holy Cross. Don’t buy argument that Georgetown was late to funding its endowment . Notre Dame can do a lot more than other schools with $20 billion look at problems at Xavier.