Prestige + Georgetown

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

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As one of the top 3 universities in DC.

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Comparing Notre Dame to Georgetown based on endowment that is wholly manufactured from football is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

No. It’s not.

My kid did not apply to ND. Likes urban.

He got into 2 Ivies, Georgetown and Hopkins.

Georgetown is prestigious. Period. In our circle (northeast)- Georgetown is like the Harvard of Catholic schools more than ND. It can be a regional preference. Both great schools. Most Jesuit-educated would definitely pick Georgetown over ND.

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Anonymous wrote:Comparing Notre Dame to Georgetown based on endowment that is wholly manufactured from football is silly.

Yes. Georgetown is Jesuit which gave away much of their $$ “men for others”.

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From a completely different regional bubble... I'm the "LOL Georgetown" poster in the thread below. To quote the B-52's: "Get out of the state, get out of the state you're in."

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/120/1262471.page#29649794

OK, yeah, SFS is a distinctive program -- I'll grant you that. But the rest? Hmm, OK, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it rank? Not HYPSM obviously but I'd put it with the next level (Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke). The 12% acceptance rate seems generous but predictions are it will go into low single digits next year with the Common App.

It’s in the same tier as Notre Dame, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Good Catholic schools with strong reputations among the non-Catholic community in the United States. Villanova would be a tier above all four schools given their basketball program and pipeline into the Vatican.

This is…a ridiculous take.

Exactly. Notre Dame is a tier above Georgetown. You’re comparing a school with an $18 billion endowment with one with less than $4 billion.

Notre Dame might be slightly ahead of Georgetown. But endowment has very little to do with it.

That being said, they are very different places and I'm guessing there are plenty of kids who choose Georgetown over Notre Dame. Georgetown location is much better. And Notre Dame is kind of culty while Georgetown is more "act like you've been there before." YMMV.

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ND is behind of Georgetown. ND is the weakest school in the T25 academically. Georgetown has SFS.
Georgetown's peers are Emory, Vandy, WashU, Rice, CMU

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As a hiring manager in public service — think governor’s cabinet office in the northeast, Georgetown applicants are way more polished and prepared than applicants we get from almost any other school.

Georgetown is a very effective “finishing school” for kids who want to work in public service. Pre-professional in a good way.

We had 20 H and Y kids recently apply for a role in our office and ended up giving it to a Georgetown kid.

Two out of the final round of 4 candidates were from Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager in public service — think governor’s cabinet office in the northeast, Georgetown applicants are way more polished and prepared than applicants we get from almost any other school.

Georgetown is a very effective “finishing school” for kids who want to work in public service. Pre-professional in a good way.

We had 20 H and Y kids recently apply for a role in our office and ended up giving it to a Georgetown kid.

Two out of the final round of 4 candidates were from Georgetown.

Does that initial good impression carry over into job performance?

My son, now in college, was heavy into Model UN in high school. A few years ago his team went to a national-level event for high-schoolers (NAIMUN) run by Georgetown students. Yes, the Georgetown students were polished, according to my son, but also arrogant and unprofessional. Sessions started late, procedures weren't followed. Son's team knew that this event would have "crisis" programming (some Model UN conferences do crises, while some do not), but my son said it was handled more like HS theater club theatrics. He found the entire conference embarrassing to take part in (compared to our quaint midwestern procedurals). His team advisors did meet with staff onsite at the time to try to address issues and sent a writeup afterwards. Of course this conference was run by a student club and not the university itself, but it caused my son to lose any interest in applying to Georgetown. (To be fair though, his chances of getting in would've been marginal.)

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Among top Catholic schools Georgetown would be step behind Notre Dame but bigger step ahead of Holy Cross and Boston College.

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Georgetown has the smallest endowment per student of the top Catholic schools(ND, Holy Cross and Georgetown). It reflects less school spirit than ND and HC and also more alums go in public service. The comments by Georgetown boosters imo reflects the false elitism and exaggerated prestige they give Gtown. No horse in this race, but from my circle of associates grads from ND and Holy Cross outperform the Hoyas. Barely top 25 and their hoops team has been weak for over 30 years. ND has a top 10 endowment and money matters for colleges those that say otherwise see how far a zero balance in your checking account gets you at the local store.

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ND is much more a national school than Georgetown. The GU campus is very tiny 100 acres no room to expand and their athletic facilities are equivalent to a middle school.

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Yeah, the athletic facilities at Oxford and Cambridge are laughable. Not sure how folks still regard them as passable institutions of higher learning. Don’t even get me started on their athletic teams.

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When last did you visit GU? They have utilized the campus space to erect beautiful buildings in the past 5 years. There are also many GU buildings in the surrounding areas of the main campus. The whole of Georgetown is a destination area for Washington, DC's metro area and beyond. GU has national AND international prestige with royalty in attendance for those who know.