HHS investigation of Harvard Law Review

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


Would you STFU with your "self reflection" nonsense. Allowing someone other than a white author to publish doesn't equal racism. You are so disgusting with your assumption that no one other than white men could possibly have merit. GTFO of here.


Glad to hear that Harvard doesn't base admissions, job offerings, speaker invitations, etc with one's race as a consideration--only merit.


+1 DEI dept not needed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


I’m so sick of the phrase “woke nonsense.” Most people who use it don’t even know where “woke” came from or what it means.

Further Ivy leagues have discriminated against URM for a long time. Not to mention what literature was taught and considered worthy. Finally paying attention to URM groups is not racism, it is acknowledgment of the past and working to level things for the future.

Claiming everything that doesn’t go your way or look to put you on top Woke Nonsense is BS and we’re DONE with it.

This toddler temper tantrums are ridiculous and quite frankly at this point I’d vote for Blue States to form their own union.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


I’m so sick of the phrase “woke nonsense.” Most people who use it don’t even know where “woke” came from or what it means.

Further Ivy leagues have discriminated against URM for a long time. Not to mention what literature was taught and considered worthy. Finally paying attention to URM groups is not racism, it is acknowledgment of the past and working to level things for the future.

Claiming everything that doesn’t go your way or look to put you on top Woke Nonsense is BS and we’re DONE with it.

This toddler temper tantrums are ridiculous and quite frankly at this point I’d vote for Blue States to form their own union.


DP. Nice rant but not particularly applicable to the allegations here.

How do you feel about choosing articles for publication based on the race/gender of the author, where some URMs are favored over others?

I think it’s grotesque (if accurate), and I’m the parent of two URM kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


I’m so sick of the phrase “woke nonsense.” Most people who use it don’t even know where “woke” came from or what it means.

Further Ivy leagues have discriminated against URM for a long time. Not to mention what literature was taught and considered worthy. Finally paying attention to URM groups is not racism, it is acknowledgment of the past and working to level things for the future.

Claiming everything that doesn’t go your way or look to put you on top Woke Nonsense is BS and we’re DONE with it.

This toddler temper tantrums are ridiculous and quite frankly at this point I’d vote for Blue States to form their own union.


DP. Nice rant but not particularly applicable to the allegations here.

How do you feel about choosing articles for publication based on the race/gender of the author, where some URMs are favored over others?

I think it’s grotesque (if accurate), and I’m the parent of two URM kids.


What suggests there are *any* merit to these allegations? Just because an author is a minority they can't write a good article?

No doubt every author published in the HLR is smarter than Trump, Bondi, and Vought. Seems to drive them crazy....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


the "woke nonsense" is mostly manufactured right wing BS.


Cancel culture was real. Ask Ronald Sullivan.

BLM was fake. Ask Roland Fryer.

Affirmative action was racist. Ask the supreme Court.

Claudine Gay was unqualified. Ask anyone.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


LOL. Harvard was here before this country even existed. It will be just fine.


If it loses tax exempt status it is gone in a generation.


It won’t, though. But do keep dreaming. Maybe churches will be next.


It can. It takes one signature from one official at the IRS. It would be unusual but if you think we are in a business as usual environment, then you haven't been paying attention.


Go for it, but remember: what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


What non profit is the gander?

The Catholic Church? Good luck with that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.

Harvard has its issues, but the rest of the world is looking at us like, "WTF?! Why would any country willfully destroy an asset like Harvard?" It's like when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas of Bamiyan to satisfy their fundamental ideology. MAGA has become no different in their glee to destroy everything they don't like or don't understand.


Harvard is not a cultural treasure. It is a corrupt institution that can be replaced just as easily as the international Olympic committee or FIFA without skipping a beat.

And it doesn't really have to be destroyed, it just has to stop being racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


I’m so sick of the phrase “woke nonsense.” Most people who use it don’t even know where “woke” came from or what it means.

Further Ivy leagues have discriminated against URM for a long time. Not to mention what literature was taught and considered worthy. Finally paying attention to URM groups is not racism, it is acknowledgment of the past and working to level things for the future.

Claiming everything that doesn’t go your way or look to put you on top Woke Nonsense is BS and we’re DONE with it.

This toddler temper tantrums are ridiculous and quite frankly at this point I’d vote for Blue States to form their own union.


DP. Nice rant but not particularly applicable to the allegations here.

How do you feel about choosing articles for publication based on the race/gender of the author, where some URMs are favored over others?

I think it’s grotesque (if accurate), and I’m the parent of two URM kids.


What suggests there are *any* merit to these allegations? Just because an author is a minority they can't write a good article?

No doubt every author published in the HLR is smarter than Trump, Bondi, and Vought. Seems to drive them crazy....


Quite a few docs (emails of the editorial staff’s deliberations, etc.) have been quoted in various media.

If the quotes are accurate, race/gender of the author seems to have taken precedence over quality.

Ugly stuff.
Anonymous
Pulled from the Dept. of Ed website:

““ The Harvard Law Review’s editor reportedly wrote that it was “concerning” that “[f]our of the five people” who wanted to reply to an article about police reform “are white men.” Another HLR editor suggested “that a piece should be subject to expedited review because the author was a minority.” The allocation of opportunities or recognition based on race can deprive other students of educational opportunities to which they would be entitled by merit, which is unacceptable for recipients of federal funding.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.

Harvard has its issues, but the rest of the world is looking at us like, "WTF?! Why would any country willfully destroy an asset like Harvard?" It's like when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas of Bamiyan to satisfy their fundamental ideology. MAGA has become no different in their glee to destroy everything they don't like or don't understand.


MAGA is also like a religious cult, complete with its own charismatic leader.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.

Harvard has its issues, but the rest of the world is looking at us like, "WTF?! Why would any country willfully destroy an asset like Harvard?" It's like when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas of Bamiyan to satisfy their fundamental ideology. MAGA has become no different in their glee to destroy everything they don't like or don't understand.


Harvard is not a cultural treasure. It is a corrupt institution that can be replaced just as easily as the international Olympic committee or FIFA without skipping a beat.

And it doesn't really have to be destroyed, it just has to stop being racist.


And what makes Harvardy a "corrupt institution"? Do you actually know anything about Harvard and the 13 schools and institutes that make up the university? Or you just think it's a fun thing to say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


Would you STFU with your "self reflection" nonsense. Allowing someone other than a white author to publish doesn't equal racism. You are so disgusting with your assumption that no one other than white men could possibly have merit. GTFO of here.


It's not a matter of allowing non white people to publish. It's a matter of using race as a criteria for determining who to publish.

You are the reason why we have this clown in the white house and without self reflection you will put another idiot like him in there again
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


So tying conformity of freedom of speech to academic research is just ducky in trumpworld? What happened to the First Amendment and let everyone say whatever they want?

You all are such blazing hypocrites, it is truly unbelievable.


I'm not a fan of trump but the woke nonsense is a large part of the reason why he won. If I lost to a clown like trump, I would engage in some self reflection instead of continuing to ostracize people by accusing them of being trump loyalists.

When you are selecting authors based on race, that is racial discrimination. If they were discriminating against URM instead of in favor of them, you would be calling for heads to roll. Does that make you a hypocrite?


Would you STFU with your "self reflection" nonsense. Allowing someone other than a white author to publish doesn't equal racism. You are so disgusting with your assumption that no one other than white men could possibly have merit. GTFO of here.


It's not a matter of allowing non white people to publish. It's a matter of using race as a criteria for determining who to publish.

You are the reason why we have this clown in the white house and without self reflection you will put another idiot like him in there again


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope Harvard (again) tells them go sit and spin. Enough of this crap.


i hope Harvard collapses and becomes a cautionary tale for academic institutions that think they are not constrained by the Constitution when they take government money and enjoy tax exempt status.


LOL. Harvard was here before this country even existed. It will be just fine.


If it loses tax exempt status it is gone in a generation.


It won’t, though. But do keep dreaming. Maybe churches will be next.


It can. It takes one signature from one official at the IRS. It would be unusual but if you think we are in a business as usual environment, then you haven't been paying attention.

Someone knows zero about exempt orgs. It takes an investigation and audit. Then findings by the IRS. Then a provisional revocation. Then years of litigation.

One signature


See rev rul 77-447

A school with a racially discriminatory admissions policy does not qualify as a tax exempt organization. The organization can appeal the determination. But by it's own admission, it engaged in impermissible racial discrimination. So they were not a charitable organization. When they pushed the envelope on affirmative action, they were betting their tax exempt status. They lost that bet.

They are free to reapply for tax exempt status but their admissions standards would have to be scrutinized, perhaps over a period during which something like "per-clearance" can be used to make sure they are not engaging in racial discrimination in admissions, hiring and competitive selections of any sort.

And Harvard would come out the other end of the process as a more fair, more meritocratic and not reputable institution.
Anonymous
Harvard Law Review is hardly the only journal exhibiting this behavior. Many well known law, medical, and literary journals were/are still doing this across the country. Popular book publishers as well.

Visit the Wayback Machine Internet Archive for submission page guidelines pre-2025 edits. It’s not good.
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