Who can write Project 2028?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

Thank you. Yes, I think I will...along with many other voters who decided to stay home last year....which is a big reason Democrats lost.

^Now who's the idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

Thank you. Yes, I think I will...along with many other voters who decided to stay home last year....which is a big reason Democrats lost.

^Now who's the idiot.

^Also, FWIW this "idiot" voted for Harris last year. But sure I'll stay home next time and not vote since that's what Democrats want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

So you aren’t a D.

No one cares what you think about the D platform.

Voting Democrat is not enough. You have to oppose everything Trump does, no matter how necessary or how good for the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

Go Dems go! You’re doing great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

OP here. I 1000% agree.

My concern is that the D stance is “let him burn and return to business as usual.” I don’t want that. Change is needed. But change on the side of helping people. I don’t want Obamacare. I want healthcare that I can afford and that improves my health. I don’t want to support forever wars and to subsidized weapon manufacturers. I want peace and less military spending. These use to be core D tenements. What happened to my party? I am not fooled by Trump but I also want an alternative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

I’m sorry. OP here again. I agree. There is no extreme left. But why the name calling? Not productive or interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

OP here. I 1000% agree.

My concern is that the D stance is “let him burn and return to business as usual.” I don’t want that. Change is needed. But change on the side of helping people. I don’t want Obamacare. I want healthcare that I can afford and that improves my health. I don’t want to support forever wars and to subsidized weapon manufacturers. I want peace and less military spending. These use to be core D tenements. What happened to my party? I am not fooled by Trump but I also want an alternative.

Exactly. And if Democrats don't offer an alternative then I'm out. Especially since I was called an idiot for saying there was an extreme left and told to stay home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

I’m sorry. OP here again. I agree. There is no extreme left. But why the name calling? Not productive or interesting.

There is an extreme left just as there is an extreme right. How can you not all see this? Mind-boggling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about just make American a democracy again?

Five bullet points

Restoration of the rule of law
Restoration of checks and balances
Restoration of separation of powers
Return of the scientific community to government
Restore traditional international alliances

Nobody wants a 1000 page book

+1000
There’s no reason to articulate anything beyond broad principles of governance. Laying out detailed policy proscriptions will lead to attacks from the left or the right.

OP here again. I disagree. I understand your position but that brings us back to the status quo and Trump won bc people wanted change. Instead imagine: a world where change can help lift people (not millionaires and billionaires) up. I want a plan for THAT. Someone who lays out that we need to get rid of Medicare Advantage plans bc they cost more and provide less care (despite the TV ads). Someone who points out the for profit hospice fraud and the solution is not to allow for profit hospice agencies to continue to operate but that bands them. Someone who can look at the Stewart healthcare fiasco and make changes to prevent that for happen again. Someone who can make the case as to why immigration is good for our economy. I could go on and one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about just make American a democracy again?

Five bullet points

Restoration of the rule of law
Restoration of checks and balances
Restoration of separation of powers
Return of the scientific community to government
Restore traditional international alliances

Nobody wants a 1000 page book

+1000
There’s no reason to articulate anything beyond broad principles of governance. Laying out detailed policy proscriptions will lead to attacks from the left or the right.

OP here again. I disagree. I understand your position but that brings us back to the status quo and Trump won bc people wanted change. Instead imagine: a world where change can help lift people (not millionaires and billionaires) up. I want a plan for THAT. Someone who lays out that we need to get rid of Medicare Advantage plans bc they cost more and provide less care (despite the TV ads). Someone who points out the for profit hospice fraud and the solution is not to allow for profit hospice agencies to continue to operate but that bands them. Someone who can look at the Stewart healthcare fiasco and make changes to prevent that for happen again. Someone who can make the case as to why immigration is good for our economy. I could go on and one.

Bernie had a plan for that, so he had to be stopped by the DNC and the donors.

No-one should have to make the case for why illegals help the economy. They do because I said so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

OP here. I 1000% agree.

My concern is that the D stance is “let him burn and return to business as usual.” I don’t want that. Change is needed. But change on the side of helping people. I don’t want Obamacare. I want healthcare that I can afford and that improves my health. I don’t want to support forever wars and to subsidized weapon manufacturers. I want peace and less military spending. These use to be core D tenements. What happened to my party? I am not fooled by Trump but I also want an alternative.

What happened to the party is a complete lack of leadership since Obama left office. Messaging and policy positions are a big problem when the opposition party has a louder voice in communicating your message to the people because you don't have adequate leadership crafting those policing positions and then properly communicating them to the American people. All of this conversation is useless until proper leadership and an eventual legitimate POTUS nominee steps up to fill that all important role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

OP here. I 1000% agree.

My concern is that the D stance is “let him burn and return to business as usual.” I don’t want that. Change is needed. But change on the side of helping people. I don’t want Obamacare. I want healthcare that I can afford and that improves my health. I don’t want to support forever wars and to subsidized weapon manufacturers. I want peace and less military spending. These use to be core D tenements. What happened to my party? I am not fooled by Trump but I also want an alternative.

What happened to the party is a complete lack of leadership since Obama left office. Messaging and policy positions are a big problem when the opposition party has a louder voice in communicating your message to the people because you don't have adequate leadership crafting those policing positions and then properly communicating them to the American people. All of this conversation is useless until proper leadership and an eventual legitimate POTUS nominee steps up to fill that all important role.

You could be right. I am not an Obama
Fan girl (imo Obamacare is a handout to the insurance companies and we lost a huge opportunity bailing out private enterprise in 2008 without an equity stake in return plus the death by drone killing is a whole new level of horror under Obama’s watch) but I agree Obama was a pivotal moment when we could have swing left and made bold changes. But we blew our chance wanting to play bu the rules.

Is anyone up for being the FDR of our times (maybe without the wife cheating)?

Obama’s heart and oratory skills may have been in the right place but I want more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/opinion/democrats-project-2029.html?unlocked_article_code=1.004.xqXd.3J4Lf15h3DS5&smid=url-share

Gift opinion article which basically says the do nothing sit watch and watch implosion approach is not the right one. Instead, progressive liberal Dems who care about people need to propose ambitious solutions bc there are real problems in our system and government.

Who (person / groups) is positioned to write such a thing? Would they?

IMO watching an implosion might be fun but it doesn’t provide a viable alternative that reacts to the real problems in the US for the midterms and next Presidential cycles.

NP. You’ll first have to convince the country that progressive liberal Dems actually care about people. I don’t believe that any more (moderate Democrat here) and I don’t know anyone who does actually believe that.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Why don't progressives "care about people"?

They don’t support policies that actually help most people. They are in favor of funding their rapacious NGOs, and supporting the desires of extreme left white elitists.

I actually don’t see much of a difference between MAGA and progressive leftists as far as how much they care about people (very little).

Agreed. I wish there could be a 3rd party of the people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

So you aren’t a D.

No one cares what you think about the D platform.

I'm not a progressive liberal Dem. Believe it or not there are...or rather were conservative Democrats.

I do not vote straight R or D -- I vote for the policies that align most with what I believe in...sometimes its a Democrat and other times its a Republican.

I'm a moderate swing voter and if you don't care what I think about the D platform that speaks volumes and that's why you lost in 2024 and will likely lose again in 2028. Remember that.

Ds should not cater to bigots.

Ds have learned absolutely nothing.

So you think they should cater to bigots?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

There has been no extremist left, you are just an idiot. Please stay home.

Thank you. Yes, I think I will...along with many other voters who decided to stay home last year....which is a big reason Democrats lost.

Give us a break. If you think Harris was extreme, there is no hope of talking sense to you. If you thought letting Trump slide in and blow up the government, all our relationships with our allies etc. while he plans his Gaza resort, you are a complete idiot. Full stop.

No, don't bother trying to argue. Literally anything is better than what is happening right now.