UK and EU schools - Is your KID picking a UK or EU school over a US school?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m british and I met my American husband when we were both on vacation in Spain. I would never ever advise my kid to start their career in the UK. It is so so so hard to financially get ahead there no matter how hard you work. it’s really a country to be mediocre in. I sometimes think Americans are blind to all the opportunity and wealth we have here and are really living in some fantasy about what real daily life is like in Europe. There is not a single day that goes by that I’m not grateful for the opportunity i’ve had in the US and the incredible education my kids get here.

I’m the completely opposite camp. Moved to the US with my Husband for his job when my two kids were 12/13. I’m sorry but I feel like their education was way ahead in the UK. They were easily 12 year ahead of every one of their counterparts at very “privileged” school in the NE….That is not to say their education was bad in the US. It was very good. BUT please, spare me the “incredible education” in middle school/High School in the US….I don think anybody here is advocating anyone to start their careers in the UK. Both of my kids decided to go to uni back in the UK. One graduated from Cambridge, the other from LSE. They both came back to the US and had amazing Job offers. One of the two decided to go back to school after 3 years to go to Harvard Law. The other one is doing really really well at a Boutique investment firm from NY. After his 1st year, he was offered an amazing opportunity to move “back” to London. He is enjoying every minute. SO please, there are opportunities anywhere in the world.

Meant to say “1” year ahead…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m british and I met my American husband when we were both on vacation in Spain. I would never ever advise my kid to start their career in the UK. It is so so so hard to financially get ahead there no matter how hard you work. it’s really a country to be mediocre in. I sometimes think Americans are blind to all the opportunity and wealth we have here and are really living in some fantasy about what real daily life is like in Europe. There is not a single day that goes by that I’m not grateful for the opportunity i’ve had in the US and the incredible education my kids get here.

I’m the completely opposite camp. Moved to the US with my Husband for his job when my two kids were 12/13. I’m sorry but I feel like their education was way ahead in the UK. They were easily 12 year ahead of every one of their counterparts at very “privileged” school in the NE….That is not to say their education was bad in the US. It was very good. BUT please, spare me the “incredible education” in middle school/High School in the US….I don think anybody here is advocating anyone to start their careers in the UK. Both of my kids decided to go to uni back in the UK. One graduated from Cambridge, the other from LSE. They both came back to the US and had amazing Job offers. One of the two decided to go back to school after 3 years to go to Harvard Law. The other one is doing really really well at a Boutique investment firm from NY. After his 1st year, he was offered an amazing opportunity to move “back” to London. He is enjoying every minute. SO please, there are opportunities anywhere in the world.

Weird random capitalization. Trumpesque.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m british and I met my American husband when we were both on vacation in Spain. I would never ever advise my kid to start their career in the UK. It is so so so hard to financially get ahead there no matter how hard you work. it’s really a country to be mediocre in. I sometimes think Americans are blind to all the opportunity and wealth we have here and are really living in some fantasy about what real daily life is like in Europe. There is not a single day that goes by that I’m not grateful for the opportunity i’ve had in the US and the incredible education my kids get here.

This, in a nutshell, is why an American throwing away lottery ticket opportunities at Stanford for Harry Potter cosplay — where one will be treated like a Muggle, before and after graduation — is a huge, huge mistake.

Oh my….who are you? Are you really complaining that this person selected Oxford over Stanford? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m british and I met my American husband when we were both on vacation in Spain. I would never ever advise my kid to start their career in the UK. It is so so so hard to financially get ahead there no matter how hard you work. it’s really a country to be mediocre in. I sometimes think Americans are blind to all the opportunity and wealth we have here and are really living in some fantasy about what real daily life is like in Europe. There is not a single day that goes by that I’m not grateful for the opportunity i’ve had in the US and the incredible education my kids get here.

This, in a nutshell, is why an American throwing away lottery ticket opportunities at Stanford for Harry Potter cosplay — where one will be treated like a Muggle, before and after graduation — is a huge, huge mistake.

Oh my….who are you? Are you really complaining that this person selected Oxford over Stanford? Really?

Having attended one of these, I can day that neither of them are a “lottery ticket”. They are an opportunity for growth and learning, and they are what you make of them. And after graduating, you still need to chart your own path through this world.

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Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

Maybe. My child never considered social sciences, so I never really looked into them. Stanford is known to have great social sciences too though. STEM is a no brainer to pick Stanford over any UK colleges, with the exception of Math or Physics that doesn't require too much funding or expensive labs or equipment. The colleges in UK are very behind in every perspective. Oxford and Cambridge still have name recognition, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

Maybe. My child never considered social sciences, so I never really looked into them. Stanford is known to have great social sciences too though. STEM is a no brainer to pick Stanford over any UK colleges, with the exception of Math or Physics that doesn't require too much funding or expensive labs or equipment. The colleges in UK are very behind in every perspective. Oxford and Cambridge still have name recognition, of course.

Except for a majority of subjects. There is more to life than non-math/non-physics STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

Maybe. My child never considered social sciences, so I never really looked into them. Stanford is known to have great social sciences too though. STEM is a no brainer to pick Stanford over any UK colleges, with the exception of Math or Physics that doesn't require too much funding or expensive labs or equipment. The colleges in UK are very behind in every perspective. Oxford and Cambridge still have name recognition, of course.

Except for a majority of subjects. There is more to life than non-math/non-physics STEM.

If you say so. Your child, your decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

Maybe. My child never considered social sciences, so I never really looked into them. Stanford is known to have great social sciences too though. STEM is a no brainer to pick Stanford over any UK colleges, with the exception of Math or Physics that doesn't require too much funding or expensive labs or equipment. The colleges in UK are very behind in every perspective. Oxford and Cambridge still have name recognition, of course.

Except for a majority of subjects. There is more to life than non-math/non-physics STEM.

If you say so. Your child, your decision.

Why do most posters on DCUM and A2C only value STEM? Is this an Asian immigrant thing or is it other folks too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For US parents whose kids applied to both US and UK/EU universities.

If you kid planning on going abroad? If so, which US schools are you giving up offers to go abroad?

My kid is a second year at Bocconi in Milan. He picked Bocconi over NYU and UVA.

Very interested in reading about his experience, if you feel like sharing!

Academic rigor, housing, social life, internships… thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

For an undergraduate education, Oxford's tutorial system might be superior to Stanford's large class/ graduate student TA norm. Depends on the student. Undergraduates are not getting the benefit of super-well-funded labs (assuming all NSF funding isn't cut in the next few months). Different students will thrive in different places; both Stanford and Oxford attract super-elite students.

Deciding on where to do a PhD is another matter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your child will study mathematics/physics or humanities, Oxford (or any college in UK) is not comparable to Stanford in any other STEM fields. The world ranking done by the UK companies is a joke.

Assuming you include social sciences in humanities, this would cover the majority of possible fields of study.

Maybe. My child never considered social sciences, so I never really looked into them. Stanford is known to have great social sciences too though. STEM is a no brainer to pick Stanford over any UK colleges, with the exception of Math or Physics that doesn't require too much funding or expensive labs or equipment. The colleges in UK are very behind in every perspective. Oxford and Cambridge still have name recognition, of course.

Randos popping off like this are so hilarious.

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I am British, now living in the U.SA but graduated from University of London(Queen Mary College)

Can someone who has studied at both USA high school and UK university, please speak on their experience going from multchoice type questions (my USA kids mainly have multiple choice style questions for schoolwork at US public school) -vs- the essay style questions UK uni's use at end of year course exams (no multiple choice allowed).

Was it easy to make the transition in the two assessment styles?

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Anonymous wrote:I am British, now living in the U.SA but graduated from University of London(Queen Mary College)

Can someone who has studied at both USA high school and UK university, please speak on their experience going from multchoice type questions (my USA kids mainly have multiple choice style questions for schoolwork at US public school) -vs- the essay style questions UK uni's use at end of year course exams (no multiple choice allowed).

Was it easy to make the transition in the two assessment styles?

Might want to start a new thread.