Who is secretly a little relieved to see the end of DEI policies and trainings?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll be glad to see an end to these initiatives. They did more to divide people than unite us.

We were divided before. We just didn’t have to talk about it.

[Anonymous]

Honestly I look forward to staff not being able to call actions they don’t like “racist” even when it’s a consistently applied policy

[Anonymous]

I think it's telling that we spent 250 years going from slavery to over-the-top DEI, but only a few years from that to openly embracing Nazi views of race and religion at the highest levels of government.

One group took the idea of equality in a bad direction, and the other group hates the idea of equality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll be glad to see an end to these initiatives. They did more to divide people than unite us.

+1.

They definitely divided us. We became us Vs them in the company when previously there was just us.

[Anonymous]

Thrilled to see DEI trainings and discussions ended because there was never any evidence they reduced bias or changed beliefs.

I hate the idea that we have to constantly talk about and point out race, religion, etc because it only reinforces the stereotypes we are trying to overcome. Everyone has implicit bias, including minorities. If we stop trying to engineer specific outcomes in society, people have a better shot of getting judged by their character and behavior because no one assumes they got their accomplishment due to one of these programs.

[Anonymous]

I a woman did not get a leadership program spot because I got not a lot of points on the Dei question. A white man instead got that spot and I got alternate. I hate DEI ever since then, I’m bitter.

With that said, f Trump and Elon too more white men.

[Anonymous]

Minority here. I think a lot of DEI practices were not executed well and put up further guard around people with the power to train or promote me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I a woman did not get a leadership program spot because I got not a lot of points on the Dei question. A white man instead got that spot and I got alternate. I hate DEI ever since then, I’m bitter.

With that said, f Trump and Elon too more white men.

Maybe you didn’t get leadership because a requirement was fluency in English

[Anonymous]

We didn't do much of this at my agency. I think we will still have to do all of the same EEO trainings that we did before because i think those are required by statute. We use the same trainings every year so I just skip through and get all the answers right.

We had a group called DIAC which I think was for people with disabilities. I never went to the meetings but that doesn't seem so bad but I think that is gone.

Sometimes we had lunch and learns like there was one coming up for the lunar new year. I also don't care about that but it's optional and seems harmless if people want to learn about that on their unpaid lunch.

[Anonymous]

It was a failure at my organization. Lots of talk, talk talk, meanwhile the leadership team is the whitest it’s ever been. Glad to be rid of the hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

I am. as a minority, I hate being given something as a pity. This is making our future generation losers and entitled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll be glad to see an end to these initiatives. They did more to divide people than unite us.

+1.

They definitely divided us. We became us Vs them in the company when previously there was just us.

I very much doubt that everyone in the company felt that it was "just us" before. Ditto to the people who "never saw a problem before" - of course you didn't. That is literally why initiatives like this were created.

The title of this thread could be accurately revised to "Who is secretly a little relieved that they do not have to consider diversity, equity, and inclusion at work anymore?" because that's the issue here. It's not that you didn't like having meetings or that the meetings were poorly planned/led. It's that you don't want to talk about being racist because it's uncomfortable for you to admit how racist you are. Yes, even you "non-white woman" and everyone else claiming your minority cred to make thinly veiled racist comments. Look at you getting protective cover to be bigoted. Guess DEI had you covered real well there!

I agree in general that many of the DEI initiatives were poorly organized, run by people with other axes to grind/personality disorders/etc. but vilifying the whole idea of INCLUSION AND EQUITY because you don't like the execution of it, and being "secretly relieved" that you don't have to think about racism at work anymore is not virtuous.

[Anonymous]

I am and I'm not secretive about it.

I think we are in a highly reactive culture right now and it's to everyone's detriment. It's not like these DEI programs were developed intelligently to actually address systemic racism or truly create more equal opportunities. They were a reflexive development to the political culture after George Floyd's murder and organizations were afraid of being viewed as insufficiently supportive of their black employees or having the "wrong" politics. 2020-2023ish were also tough years to hire and orgs were doing everything they could to make themselves seem appealing to new hires, especially younger hires. This resulted in a ton of pandering programming that was designed primarily to signal they had the right politics, but did not actually improve anything.

I am very supportive of REAL initiatives to improve diversity of all kinds within organizations. The best programs, I think, tend to be internships, community outreach, and training programs that target underrepresented groups in your organization. These provide actual opportunities and pathways for people who might otherwise not feel like they are welcome or not know how to get the experience they need to get a job there. These also tend to be good for organizations by providing pipelines of talented people and ensuring they get better training earlier. My DH's state agency has an internship program that works with two public universities to provide interns who are interested in the field (civil engineering). One of the two schools is a commuter college with a very diverse population, not just racially but also socioeconomically (the other school is a state flagship). A very high percent of interns through that program wind up applying for jobs there after they graduate, with a high pick up rate because they know the agency and have some hands on experience there. The result is a very diverse workforce that draws extensively from across the state's population. And these people tend to be good at their jobs too. I know because I'm married to one of them.

But it's not a "DEI" program. It's a 20 year old program that was developed to address two problems -- the agency used to be populated entirely by white men, and they also struggled to recruit because of increasing competition in the field. It was a practical solution and it was tailored to the needs of the agency. It was not a politically-motivated program designed mostly as a marketing ploy.

So no, I'm not sad to see most of these DEI programs go. No organization needs an entire department whose job it is to craft social media messages for Hispanic Heritage Month and MLK Day. It's actually okay if organizations don't even observe that stuff. A good organization will have practical diversity initiatives that actually make the place a welcoming, egalitarian place to work for people of all backgrounds. You can do that without a DEI office.

[Anonymous]

Liberals went off the deep end with DEI. Now republicans are going to the other extreme. Why is it so hard to do anything in moderation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yes they went too far. Inability to temper this is one of the reasons Trump won and I’m pissed about it.

+1

....amd so many other "woke" agendas. I'm done with them. I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm Independent!