Nanny knowingly spread germs to my child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You get what you pay for.

A lot of these nannies come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. These are (frankly) people who grew up with primitive living conditions. They are not folks from middle class backgrounds who know better. Hygiene is a big deal for educated, well off folks, but not necessarily a priority or an understood thing in other cultures or regions, including the U.S.

If you need someone who follows your cultural expectations, hire someone who is familiar with your expectations. That's not necessarily the poor immigrant from a simpler lifestyle.

But taking care of kids is menial, low-skilled work that middle and upper class folks are far too good for. Why should OP have to pay decent money for someone educated and responsible to do this extremely simple and unimportant job?

I’m assuming this is sarcasm. But I am always amazed by how people try to lowball and complain about the cost of the people who are literally taking responsibility for what is presumably your most precious thing on earth. People complain less about how much the guy who mows their lawn costs, and he’s only responsible for the grass!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You get what you pay for.

A lot of these nannies come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. These are (frankly) people who grew up with primitive living conditions. They are not folks from middle class backgrounds who know better. Hygiene is a big deal for educated, well off folks, but not necessarily a priority or an understood thing in other cultures or regions, including the U.S.

If you need someone who follows your cultural expectations, hire someone who is familiar with your expectations. That's not necessarily the poor immigrant from a simpler lifestyle.

Op here, Ok clearly you’re racist. Poverty or being an immigrant doesn’t mean a person lacks basic hygiene. In fact, in college I became aware that plenty of the suburban raised pretty white girls, that took an +1hr getting done up, were the grossest bunch. Take your hate somewhere else.

Is that because you hung around outside the bathroom listening to them poop, too? You sound like a pervert.

OP here, I’m replying to someone else stating that poor people/immigrants lack basic hygiene. Why don’t you ask them how they know that? Seems like we’re very sure of themselves.
As for my experience, have you ever lived in a dorm or apt. where people share bathrooms and kitchens? It’s obvious who is gross when you are living in a shared space. Maybe you were lucky enough to have never had that experience.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s odd that you all drink from the same orange juice bottle just because you’re related. If she sees you all doing it maybe she thinks it’s normal.

I don’t always wash my hands with soap/water after using the bathroom, especially at this time of year. I use hand sanitizer in place though, or wipes on occasion.

If I was in the bathroom and you were standing outside listening I would leave you in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

They don't drink out of bottle it's a big juice container they pour glasses from. Nanny chugged from it. If she had poured a glass post would not exist..
She will be modeling poor toilet hygiene to kids as well as just being gross.
Get new nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You get what you pay for.

A lot of these nannies come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. These are (frankly) people who grew up with primitive living conditions. They are not folks from middle class backgrounds who know better. Hygiene is a big deal for educated, well off folks, but not necessarily a priority or an understood thing in other cultures or regions, including the U.S.

If you need someone who follows your cultural expectations, hire someone who is familiar with your expectations. That's not necessarily the poor immigrant from a simpler lifestyle.

Op here, Ok clearly you’re racist. Poverty or being an immigrant doesn’t mean a person lacks basic hygiene. In fact, in college I became aware that plenty of the suburban raised pretty white girls, that took an +1hr getting done up, were the grossest bunch. Take your hate somewhere else.

Is that because you hung around outside the bathroom listening to them poop, too? You sound like a pervert.

OP here, I’m replying to someone else stating that poor people/immigrants lack basic hygiene. Why don’t you ask them how they know that? Seems like we’re very sure of themselves.
As for my experience, have you ever lived in a dorm or apt. where people share bathrooms and kitchens? It’s obvious who is gross when you are living in a shared space. Maybe you were lucky enough to have never had that experience.

You said in your OP that you deliberately stand outside the bathroom door listening to your nanny. That is extremely disturbing behavior. And it’s also extremely gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This week I walked in on my nanny drinking orange juice directly from the bottle. The one everyone in the family drinks from, mostly my DC. I confronted her and she pretended to be confused, that she thought it was her juice bottle, which is total BS because she never brings her own beverages. She always consumes our cans of coke, makes herself fresh coffee, etc... I am fine with her consuming our beverages, but obviously not from something that is shared. I assume this is common sense to everyone. She likes to complain about the cold, so earlier in the day she even mentioned how she's been a bit sick but is taking medicine. Meaning she drank directly from the bottle knowing that she was sick.

This happened this Wed, and I haven't fired her yet because I obviously don't have anyone lined up. It's now Friday and I noticed both kids have runny nose and one seems to have a sore throat. To make matters worse, just last week I noticed that she doesn't wash her hands after using the bathroom. You can hear as she flushes but there is no water from the faucet before leaving the bathroom. I literally stood by the door and told her to please wash her hands every time she goes, then she walked right back in to wash them. I've already started looking for new nannies, but I can't hire just anyone either.

WWYD

Well, you did just hire anyone.

WWYD?

Get a new nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is she from a different culture? Different people do hygiene differently. I'd have told her going forward to not drink directly from communal containers, and talked through the hygiene steps I'd like her to take - don't share utensils, wash hands after using bathroom/before prepping food, after changing diapers, etc.

She is South American and so am I, we are from neighboring countries. Her actions are not a reflection of her culture.

Just pure selfish and unacceptable. Worthy of firing? Maybe not. Discussing these and other expectations yes. If she’s drinking from shared bottles then she is blowing her nose or picking it and preparing food and isn’t washing her hands after she toilets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:good luck finding a new nanny. You sound like a nightmare op. If she’s a good nanny this is a psychotic thing to fire her for, at least not without giving her a chance to understand your concern and change her habits. Kids get germs from everywhere - you cannot keep them in a bubble, nor would that be healthy.

Neither psychotic or unreasonable. Maybe you do the same at your place.

[Anonymous]

She knew better and didn’t care. Period. I’d be imagining what else she’s doing that I didn’t see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, why is your child drinking juice from a bottle?

Second, people who are unconcerned about germs are not going to be convinced to start taking it seriously. You’ll need to replace her.

I don't think the kid is drinking from the bottle, but all of the juice in the bottle gets contaminated with OP's germs hen she drinks from it directly.

[Anonymous]

Your nanny is gross and felt way too comfortable in your home to drink directly from the bottle. That’s something a kid would do.

However your description that she “knowingly spread germs” is so dramatic and makes it sound like a malicious act that I can’t take your account seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In two weeks there will be no more nanny’s

Project 2025

Keep your lunatic liberal politics out of the childcare forum

You aren’t the moderator. Zip it and take a seat.

No politics needed on a childcare thread.

Now, go take care of the children you were so desperate to have. No need for a nanny -- you are the mom, ergo you are the nanny.

[Anonymous]

Why are any of you drinking directly from the bottle? Family included.

[Anonymous]

She considers herself family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don't drink out of bottle it's a big juice container they pour glasses from. Nanny chugged from it. If she had poured a glass post would not exist..
She will be modeling poor toilet hygiene to kids as well as just being gross.
Get new nanny.

Is this a sackable offense or a trainable offense? I think this is a trainable offense. Good employees are really hard to find - both technical and non technical employees. I invest in training. that me and I am not in the habit of firing them at minor infractions. Yes, I would be pissed, but I would approach her with kindness and empathy. I would use this as an opportunity to to teach her proper hygiene - bathroom, kitchen, cooking, etc. Honestly, she is low skilled, likely low education, etc - she really might not know. When you teach her tell her this is expected of her EVERY TIME. If the behavior continues or if she’s resistant to training, then consider a replacement. Do unto others. . . If she were one of your kids how would you want her to be treated by an employer?