Are you tired of whiny millennial parents / co-workers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gen X is really shaping up to be the new boomers, eh?

Let's see you survive, pre-gramps...

Rent: $2572/mo
Utilities: $350 (water, power, trash, internet)
Health insurance: $416/mo (is the half we pay & company pays other half)
Eye insurance: $50/mo ($25 ea for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Dental insurance: $44/mo ($22 eas for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Car 1: $0 - paid off
Car 1 insurance: $40/mo
Car 2: $216/mo but paying $400/mo so it will be paid off by July
Car 2 insurance: $65/mo
Student loan 1: $683/mo
Student loan 2: $515/mo
Daycare for 18 mo: $1314/mo
=$6096

And that doesn't even include groceries, tolls/gas/car expenses, personal care items, or other monthly expenses.

And yes, we've been trying to buy a house for 3 years now. We keep getting outbid, like, $50k-$70k outbid.

I imagine it is difficult to raise kids while paying off student loans. It's so sad that someone forces you to start a family before you were on firmer financial footing. We need to do better as a country, and allow people to defer having kids until they are in a better situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the millennials I know with two working parents, even if they work from home, have some form of regular professional childcare.

+1 and they are very responsible. The ones that get me are the 20 somethings with no kids that expect time off for every friends wedding, bachelor party (destination party for which they need several days), shower (again a destination party for which they need several days) plus lots and lots of mental health days plus remote time so they can work from wherever their significant other is, and also don’t want to check email on their days away from the office. I may retire early and let the millennials figure this out!

I am an older millennial, and I agree with the 20-something attitudes. Work to live, not live to work.

[Anonymous]

I’m gen x and had to really struggle with work and childcare as a truly single parent without family help. It sucked and I love that my daughter and her generation will have more options. Why would I want it be hard for them too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 48 yo father of 2 teenage girls.I somehow found a way to raise both of these girls and work at the same time.

I am 100% tired of seeing people complain about daycare and how they are going to handle going back to the office...GTFOH man up and figure it our somehow my generation found a way to raise their children before remote work....

I guess I am officially the old grumpy GenX guy, but I am done dealing with this mentally weaker generation!!!

Typical dude. Your wife likely handled all the invisible labor. The sick days, the daycare signups, sports schedules etc.

White male privilege and the lack of awareness is disgusting.

I admit I had the same thought as you for a split second, and then I realized how sexist I was being.

What is more disgusting, making assumption and accustations based on gender or the lack of awareness you assume he has?

The solution for ageism isn't sexism
I personally find it offensive on behalf of my (Gen X) husband

OP is being ageist, criticizing a whole generation. I think it’s allowed tit-for-tat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m just a few years younger than you are. When my kids were little, my husband’s work more or less expected that I would handle everything at home, and he would be available at work. (It didn’t matter that I also worked for the same hospital and knew is boss and coworkers.)

My sister is 35, and things are so different. Her husband does close to half, and that’s what’s expected. He took paternity leave when the kids were born, takes time off when they are sick half the time, goes to the doctor with them half the time, etc.

As a working woman, I think this is good.

I'm 45 with the same set up as your sister. My husband does more doctor and dentist appointments than I do, he does half the work around the house, and he takes them to their sports half the time. He also gets them ready for school and puts them to bed half the time. Same with cooking. We alternate days on this stuff so I know he actually is doing half, it's not something I'm trying to convince myself of. He also took the first four weeks off, then another four after I went back to work after 16 weeks. He dealt with kids in the morning because my commute was worse so I left before they got up and I got home earlier in the afternoons so we each had them alone for the same amount of time M-F and neither of us has ever worked weekends. Now they're older and take the bus to and from school and we both work from home so things are much easier, but he has always been 50% responsible for everything related to the family.

[Anonymous]

Hey OP: did you answer yet what the division of labor is between you and your spouse? Who did pickups and drop offs? Did your kids walk to school? What does your spouse do?

Also, just curious, how much did you pay for your first house and where was it and when did you buy it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X is really shaping up to be the new boomers, eh?

Let's see you survive, pre-gramps...

Rent: $2572/mo
Utilities: $350 (water, power, trash, internet)
Health insurance: $416/mo (is the half we pay & company pays other half)
Eye insurance: $50/mo ($25 ea for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Dental insurance: $44/mo ($22 eas for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Car 1: $0 - paid off
Car 1 insurance: $40/mo
Car 2: $216/mo but paying $400/mo so it will be paid off by July
Car 2 insurance: $65/mo
Student loan 1: $683/mo
Student loan 2: $515/mo
Daycare for 18 mo: $1314/mo
=$6096

And that doesn't even include groceries, tolls/gas/car expenses, personal care items, or other monthly expenses.

And yes, we've been trying to buy a house for 3 years now. We keep getting outbid, like, $50k-$70k outbid.

I imagine it is difficult to raise kids while paying off student loans. It's so sad that someone forces you to start a family before you were on firmer financial footing. We need to do better as a country, and allow people to defer having kids until they are in a better situation.

We have both paid off what we borrowed yet we both still owe more than we borrowed. It's the insane interest that is crippling millennials, not the actual paying back the loans.

And you should be thankful that we did have a kid because we are anomalies. None of our millennial friends, single or coupled, want kids because of costs. I took my kid to more doggy bday parties than human bday parties in 2024.

[Anonymous]

You just don't remember whining about it, because when you were dealing with daycare, there was no social media encouraging all this sharing of feelings and information. Maybe you just complained to your wife, a couple of relatives and friends.

Social media has changed the way people talk to each other, and has blurred the line between friends, acquaintances and strangers. One reason I don't use it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X is really shaping up to be the new boomers, eh?

Let's see you survive, pre-gramps...

Rent: $2572/mo
Utilities: $350 (water, power, trash, internet)
Health insurance: $416/mo (is the half we pay & company pays other half)
Eye insurance: $50/mo ($25 ea for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Dental insurance: $44/mo ($22 eas for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Car 1: $0 - paid off
Car 1 insurance: $40/mo
Car 2: $216/mo but paying $400/mo so it will be paid off by July
Car 2 insurance: $65/mo
Student loan 1: $683/mo
Student loan 2: $515/mo
Daycare for 18 mo: $1314/mo
=$6096

And that doesn't even include groceries, tolls/gas/car expenses, personal care items, or other monthly expenses.

And yes, we've been trying to buy a house for 3 years now. We keep getting outbid, like, $50k-$70k outbid.

I imagine it is difficult to raise kids while paying off student loans. It's so sad that someone forces you to start a family before you were on firmer financial footing. We need to do better as a country, and allow people to defer having kids until they are in a better situation.

Hah. Genx slow clap by a gen xer is the only reaction here:

[Anonymous]

The millennials who report to me are very hardworking, considerate, awesome people. I actually wish we could pay them more. Nothing against my own Gen X - my peers are also great people but I am just not seeing this negative narrative about millennials play out in my workplace. I do think their ethical standards seem higher than ours were in terms of caring for animals, being careful not to offend people, etc. but it's not the caricature level social media would have you believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the millennials I know with two working parents, even if they work from home, have some form of regular professional childcare.

+1 and they are very responsible. The ones that get me are the 20 somethings with no kids that expect time off for every friends wedding, bachelor party (destination party for which they need several days), shower (again a destination party for which they need several days) plus lots and lots of mental health days plus remote time so they can work from wherever their significant other is, and also don’t want to check email on their days away from the office. I may retire early and let the millennials figure this out!

I am an older millennial, and I agree with the 20-something attitudes. Work to live, not live to work.

I'm a Gen Xer and I also agree with this - why shouldn't you take your leave to go do fun things? I assume they're not taking PTO they don't have for this, so why do you care what they're doing with it? And you shouldn't check email while you're out of the office. You're using your leave, so take leave and be away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a 48 yo father of 2 teenage girls. I somehow found a way to raise both of these girls and work at the same time.

I am 100% tired of seeing people complain about daycare and how they are going to handle going back to the office...GTFOH man up and figure it our somehow my generation found a way to raise their children before remote work....

I guess I am officially the old grumpy GenX guy, but I am done dealing with this mentally weaker generation!!!

The high performers all have the option to work elsewhere and maintain their WFH, don’t worry. Soon your complaint will go back to the typical whining that no one wants to work for you.

[Anonymous]

I'm an older millennial, and my friends and I found a way to make things work. It's the Gen Z kids who have no families yet and show up to the office at 10 am, leave at 4 pm, never answer calls or emails outside of the office, and want 5 weeks of vacation a year that drives me crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X is really shaping up to be the new boomers, eh?

Let's see you survive, pre-gramps...

Rent: $2572/mo
Utilities: $350 (water, power, trash, internet)
Health insurance: $416/mo (is the half we pay & company pays other half)
Eye insurance: $50/mo ($25 ea for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Dental insurance: $44/mo ($22 eas for both me & hubby - kid is covered under health insurance)
Car 1: $0 - paid off
Car 1 insurance: $40/mo
Car 2: $216/mo but paying $400/mo so it will be paid off by July
Car 2 insurance: $65/mo
Student loan 1: $683/mo
Student loan 2: $515/mo
Daycare for 18 mo: $1314/mo
=$6096

And that doesn't even include groceries, tolls/gas/car expenses, personal care items, or other monthly expenses.

And yes, we've been trying to buy a house for 3 years now. We keep getting outbid, like, $50k-$70k outbid.

I imagine it is difficult to raise kids while paying off student loans. It's so sad that someone forces you to start a family before you were on firmer financial footing. We need to do better as a country, and allow people to defer having kids until they are in a better situation.

Hah. Genx slow clap by a gen xer is the only reaction here:

This reaction is peak gen x. And outdated meme from an outdated show that was cool 20 years ago with its hip neoliberal takes. Yeah, Gen X is really showing its age/uncoolness in this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey OP: did you answer yet what the division of labor is between you and your spouse? Who did pickups and drop offs? Did your kids walk to school? What does your spouse do?

Also, just curious, how much did you pay for your first house and where was it and when did you buy it?

Telling that he has not returned. He was hoping for a bunch of attaboys…