Frustrated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is a Marketing major with a 3.6 or so GPA (above the recommended GPA for many programs) , lots of volunteer hours, club involvement, the whole nine yards and yet every time she tries , the door gets slammed in her face. Those so-called “flagships” that you are talking about are insanely competitive now, too. In state in Virginia and rejection after rejection. Meanwhile, community college students get priority at the same in state schools that keep turning her down. It’s infuriating to watch other kids with slightly better test scores or 0.05 better GPAs waltz in while she’s left with rejection after rejection. We’re tired of being at a college everyone looks down on and want a shot at better internships. But no matter how hard she works, she’s always overlooked.

BTW I’m not forcing her to do anything. Stop trying to force your narrative onto me.

3.6? Your kid is not a realistic candidate to transfer into those types of schools unless she has a time machine to go back and redo high school. No, not even if it “says on paper” that she doesn’t fall below their published minimum criteria.

Finish undergrad as strongly as possible, with the best possible grades, and apply to a reach school for grad. Stop wasting time and energy in the wrong direction now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is a Marketing major with a 3.6 or so GPA (above the recommended GPA for many programs) , lots of volunteer hours, club involvement, the whole nine yards and yet every time she tries , the door gets slammed in her face. Those so-called “flagships” that you are talking about are insanely competitive now, too. In state in Virginia and rejection after rejection. Meanwhile, community college students get priority at the same in state schools that keep turning her down. It’s infuriating to watch other kids with slightly better test scores or 0.05 better GPAs waltz in while she’s left with rejection after rejection. We’re tired of being at a college everyone looks down on and want a shot at better internships. But no matter how hard she works, she’s always overlooked.

BTW I’m not forcing her to do anything. Stop trying to force your narrative onto me.

Business can be a hard major to get into. Enrollment is capped at a lot of schools. In my state (not DMV), people transfer out of one of the flagships because they can't get into the business college after matriculating.

Have you looked at or tried Indiana -Bloomington? What about Ohio State?
What about Babson for business?

I work at an F500 corporation in the HQ city. People from small schools are fairly well represented. I'm always impressed at how far people go from schools that aren't very selective. And that's because success depends so much on personal drive and characteristics.

Don't ruin your daughter's college years over this. Sounds like she's doing well right now. The economy is bad for hiring right now so internships are harder to get everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Totally agree with letting the idea of transfer go and bloom where you are planted. There must have been something about this no name school that appealed when she put it on the application list.

Make the most of every opportunity, focus on getting internships. Apply to a "name" school for an MBA.

FWIW, one of my kids goes to a top VA school and the other to a "no name" LAC. Both happy with their experiences and while the LAC isn't generally known it is known in her field of study. I expect she'll go to a big flagship for grad school since it's expected in her field. And her college has a good track record with students doing well in grad school admissions.

So, make the best of where you are at. And this is a cautionary tale for other students who don't want to do the CC->UVA/VT transfer path. If the goal is transfer you are often better off doing the CC.

[Anonymous]

I did transferring. UVA is very stringent on completing requirements. The transfer rate for non-CC students is low. About <20%. The in state community college acceptance rate for UVA ranges from 60-66% depending on the year. I’m sure William & Mary is similar.

[Anonymous]

Don't try the leap in one bound. Get to a solid public university. Finish the undergrad degree strong then apply to some top tier grad schools. Lots of good programs and a fair number don't even require a GRE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your original post is all about you, what you want, and your goals for her. How much of her frantic efforts to transfer somewhere is you pushing her? I would guess it's all you and your dreams not hers.

What does she want? Does she actually want to transfer? Why? Why can't her career goals be achieved where she is?

You, at least, need to sit down and read some of the "Where You Go Is Not Who You'll Be" type books. Settle down, back off, let her live her life. Most people in the world go to "no name" schools and still succeed in life.

"This feels like the end of the road for her future possibilities" - if you think someone who is 20 and who is actually in college (and who is "taking challenging classes, getting decent grades, volunteering, clubs, etc.") has forfeited all her future possibilities, you need therapy. Seriously. Your mind is not at all in the right place.

+100 Please seek therapy.

[Anonymous]

marketing is not a major at many colleges and is not considered as serious as many majors. And a 3.6 is not really great for a transfer. A 3.6 in marketing is even less helpful. I really don't see how this is going to happen unless it is an equivalent or lower school and maybe even then not.

She needs to bloom where she is planted and stop making college miserable by keeping an eye at the door the whole time.

[Anonymous]

If she’s a B student at her current school, that’s a good place for her.

[Anonymous]

I feel so bad for your daughter. She's spent the last two years feeling like she's disappointed you and that she's isn't successful enough. Instead, she should have been focusing on growing a community at her current school, including getting involved in activities and developing relationships with professors.

[Anonymous]

Focus your efforts on therapy for you.

[Anonymous]

Too many foreigners

[Anonymous]

At this point, she can also focus on strong summer jobs and internships.

If her current college is not strong in offering students opportunities, a primary focal point for a transfer school should be how good their career center is at placement.

[Anonymous]

Why are the schools pretentious and sadistic for onoy accepting the students they want?

What does what you spent 2 years ago in HS on tutoring, ECs and SAT prep have to do with anything.

Read your words:

“she’ll be stuck finishing at the same no-name place.”
“ This feels like the end of the road for her future possibilities.”
“I’m heartbroken and …kind of furious.”
“I see other kids in her high school class who breezed into brand-name colleges left and right.”
“We spent thousands of dollars on tutoring, SAT prep, extracurricular camps, you name it.”
“not bright enough for the pretentious and sadistic admissions committees.”

It sounds like YOU (and you probably pushed this idea on her) thought just top tiers were a stretch, but if you’re on these boards, you should have known all of those listed schools were/are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so bad for your daughter. She's spent the last two years feeling like she's disappointed you and that she's isn't successful enough. Instead, she should have been focusing on growing a community at her current school, including getting involved in activities and developing relationships with professors.

It’s been more than two years. OP also spent thousands of dollars on SAT tutoring only to be disappointed by a mediocre score. Then there was all the college application prep, only to be met by disappointing results.

At first I was going to post that OP needs therapy, but really it’s the daughter who needs it.

[Anonymous]

Those schools want students who they know will succeed, and there has to be a compelling reason for a transfer. Good but not great grades probably won't get her into those schools. Maybe look at stronger state schools or finish where she is.