Virginia Discussing Regional Income Tax For NOVA Transit

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

Northern Virginia is built completely around the mid to late 20th century lifestyle defined by the personal vehicle. That can't change. It won't change. So it is not smart to try to get everyone connected by transit, and defeat your cause early on by trying to get everyone to pay for it.

The smart move in NOVA is to select one or two linear corridors and enable truly effective and frequent transit only in those areas. Zone them for density and transit value. And fund the transit in those locations from only the people and businesses in those specific corridors. It's been done to some degree already but a region-wide tax is stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

You (or someone) said "The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station."

But the reality is that lots of people in NOVA take Metro for other reasons, and lots of people in NOVA ride buses. Even if those people are not you or anyone you know, they are people who should be included in the category "anyone in NOVA".

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

Northern Virginia is built completely around the mid to late 20th century lifestyle defined by the personal vehicle. That can't change. It won't change. So it is not smart to try to get everyone connected by transit, and defeat your cause early on by trying to get everyone to pay for it.

The smart move in NOVA is to select one or two linear corridors and enable truly effective and frequent transit only in those areas. Zone them for density and transit value. And fund the transit in those locations from only the people and businesses in those specific corridors. It's been done to some degree already but a region-wide tax is stupid.

It can change.

[Anonymous]

The problem is that others from ROVA also use the transit infrastructure in NoVa. Tons of super commuters that come from RIC area or more rural areas in western VA or WV multiple times per week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that others from ROVA also use the transit infrastructure in NoVa. Tons of super commuters that come from RIC area or more rural areas in western VA or WV multiple times per week.

The problem is that our transit infrastructure exists to bring jobs to DC. Why should VA fund DC as a jobs center?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that others from ROVA also use the transit infrastructure in NoVa. Tons of super commuters that come from RIC area or more rural areas in western VA or WV multiple times per week.

The problem is that our transit infrastructure exists to bring jobs to DC. Why should VA fund DC as a jobs center?

It is true that this was the original purpose of Metro, in the 1960s and 1970s.

It is also true that it is now 2024, and that there is a lot more transit in northern Virginia than just the 1960s/1970s Metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

You (or someone) said "The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station."

But the reality is that lots of people in NOVA take Metro for other reasons, and lots of people in NOVA ride buses. Even if those people are not you or anyone you know, they are people who should be included in the category "anyone in NOVA".

You are fundamentally unserious to try and claim, without any data, that non-commuter trips are somehow magically higher than the 4% of commuter trips on transit.

The data is clear. People barely take transit in NOVA to work and outside of work people use transit even less.

I do wonder who you think you’re convincing with this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My property taxes have gone up 50% since 2017. How is that not enough? 50%.

Your taxes went up mostly because the value of your home went up. The value of your home went up because of the attractiveness of the area you live in, including services such as public transportation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

You (or someone) said "The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station."

But the reality is that lots of people in NOVA take Metro for other reasons, and lots of people in NOVA ride buses. Even if those people are not you or anyone you know, they are people who should be included in the category "anyone in NOVA".

You are fundamentally unserious to try and claim, without any data, that non-commuter trips are somehow magically higher than the 4% of commuter trips on transit.

The data is clear. People barely take transit in NOVA to work and outside of work people use transit even less.

I do wonder who you think you’re convincing with this nonsense.

It would be less work for you if you just repeatedly posted "I don't use transit, and I believe that everyone I know also doesn't use transit."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

You (or someone) said "The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station."

But the reality is that lots of people in NOVA take Metro for other reasons, and lots of people in NOVA ride buses. Even if those people are not you or anyone you know, they are people who should be included in the category "anyone in NOVA".

You are fundamentally unserious to try and claim, without any data, that non-commuter trips are somehow magically higher than the 4% of commuter trips on transit.

The data is clear. People barely take transit in NOVA to work and outside of work people use transit even less.

I do wonder who you think you’re convincing with this nonsense.

It would be less work for you if you just repeatedly posted "I don't use transit, and I believe that everyone I know also doesn't use transit."

You said that “lots of people” in NOVA use transit for non-work trips. That is just not true.

Why do you waste your time lying about transit anonymously on the internet about places you clearly don’t live or understand?

That’s just legitimately weird, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My property taxes have gone up 50% since 2017. How is that not enough? 50%.

Your taxes went up mostly because the value of your home went up. The value of your home went up because of the attractiveness of the area you live in, including services such as public transportation.

No. Very few around me think at all about public transit. I bought in an area with the least amount of pubic transit possible, on purpose.

I don't hate public transit. I just don't want to be anywhere near it.

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Anonymous wrote:Transit ridership in NOVA has been on long-term decline since 2008, predating the pandemic. Current ridership is 60% below 2008 levels. Only 4% of NOVA commuters use transit, which is down from what was a steady 10% of commuters pre-pandemic.
https://novatransit.org/uploads/studiesarchive/2024%20Northern%20Virginia%20Transit%20Trends%20Report.pdf

Spending more on transit is a waste of money.

Transit is inadequate, so most people can't use it, so we should ... make transit even more inadequate!

It's inefficient and slow. NOVA is large and sprawling without any true center. Good luck figuring out how to make it fast and efficient

Do you think less funding would make it more efficient and less slow?

I think without a real urban center, there is no way to make it usable. It works if you want to commute into DC or stay on the same line. Try getting from Lorton to Tysons or from Reston to Springfield (Skyline, not the mall)

If you are an ordinary NOVA family that lives in Chantilly and commutes to work for a Federal agency in Springfield, it’s 30 minutes to drive and almost 2 hours by transit.

I’m not even sure what the transit advocates are trying to argue about. Is it billions of public investment to decrease that 2 hours to 1 hour? Still wouldn’t compete with driving and makes zero financial sense.

If Fairfax Connector can add a commuter bus, then they should be doing that with their existing budget and tax increases are not needed.

If you are an ordinary NOVA family, almost all of your trips are NOT the commute to work. Why are you focusing exclusively on the commute to work trip, for people who can drive?

The transit advocates are advocating for a transit system that enables people to get where they're going, conveniently and efficiently. I don't understand why anybody would advocate against this - except people who work for the road construction industry, for obvious reasons.

What are you doing arguing here when you clearly don’t live in the area.

The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station.

You want NOVA tax payers to spend billions on transit for non-work trips? Way to undermine yourself and not get taken seriously.

You might want to think about who you're defining as people and who you're defining as not-people, here.

WTF are you talking about “people and not people”?

The nonsense that you are talking about makes it clear that you don’t live here because you clearly don’t understand the geography of the built environment, where people live, where jobs are and how people live their lives.

You (or someone) said "The only reasons why anyone in NOVA even thinks about transit is when they have to go into DC, either for work or a Caps game. And if it’s the latter, they are parking at a metro station."

But the reality is that lots of people in NOVA take Metro for other reasons, and lots of people in NOVA ride buses. Even if those people are not you or anyone you know, they are people who should be included in the category "anyone in NOVA".

You are fundamentally unserious to try and claim, without any data, that non-commuter trips are somehow magically higher than the 4% of commuter trips on transit.

The data is clear. People barely take transit in NOVA to work and outside of work people use transit even less.

I do wonder who you think you’re convincing with this nonsense.

It would be less work for you if you just repeatedly posted "I don't use transit, and I believe that everyone I know also doesn't use transit."

You said that “lots of people” in NOVA use transit for non-work trips. That is just not true.

Why do you waste your time lying about transit anonymously on the internet about places you clearly don’t live or understand?

That’s just legitimately weird, right?

It is absolutely true. You just don't know any of them, and therefore according to you, either they don't exist at all, or they do exist but aren't people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that others from ROVA also use the transit infrastructure in NoVa. Tons of super commuters that come from RIC area or more rural areas in western VA or WV multiple times per week.

The problem is that our transit infrastructure exists to bring jobs to DC. Why should VA fund DC as a jobs center?

It is true that this was the original purpose of Metro, in the 1960s and 1970s.

It is also true that it is now 2024, and that there is a lot more transit in northern Virginia than just the 1960s/1970s Metro.

Have you seen a metro map? There are no connections between blue/yellow and orange silver further out than Arlington. It's still a model where routes radiate from DC. If you aren't traveling to or from DC (the majority of NOVA commuters) it's worthless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that others from ROVA also use the transit infrastructure in NoVa. Tons of super commuters that come from RIC area or more rural areas in western VA or WV multiple times per week.

The problem is that our transit infrastructure exists to bring jobs to DC. Why should VA fund DC as a jobs center?

It is true that this was the original purpose of Metro, in the 1960s and 1970s.

It is also true that it is now 2024, and that there is a lot more transit in northern Virginia than just the 1960s/1970s Metro.

Have you seen a metro map? There are no connections between blue/yellow and orange silver further out than Arlington. It's still a model where routes radiate from DC. If you aren't traveling to or from DC (the majority of NOVA commuters) it's worthless.

I sure have. Including the part of it that is a gray line in northern Virginia.