Democratic pipeline of talent is sad

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there virtually NO moderate Democrats who can take the reins over the party and reject the progressives they are ruining the entire Dems and preventing them from winning elections? The DNC is letting the mental patients run the asylum, when will the big brains behind the scene finally put their foot down and tell them to shut up and piss off? Look ahead too 2026 and 2028, the Dems have an abysmal pipeline of up and coming talent to draw from. Who could they possibly run for President? AOC? Have fun with a other loss. Whitmer? Give me a break, she ruined her career with that weirdo Doritos gaffe. Bashear? He is basically a nobody right now. Just a truly awful pool of talent. I don't think the Dems have a chance of winning the presidency at this rate until 2040 or beyond. The country has thoroughly rejected their progressive platform. Running a campaign from the perspective of a big blue city coastal elitist is a perfect recipe for more losses.

The only way they win is if GOP self immolates and then country explodes. But that destiny is not controlled by the Dems. The Dems need to kick out and stop supporting every single Boomer and Silent Gen pol they have in their ranks, for starters.

And if Trumps term goes just ok, and Vance runs in 2028, its game over for the Dems. Vance is the best part of Trump and the best part of Republicans combined , so he will get MAGA and GOP voters.

Vance is invisible. He's been completely sidelined by Trump. And the odds of Trump's term going "ok" are abysmal. He's not in this to make the country better. He's in this to enrich himself and his friends, take vengeance against his perceived enemies, and blow it all up. It'll be pocketbook issues again in 2028, and the Republicans will be forced to play serious defense.

Musk will go away soon. Vance will be there till the end, and he has Peter Thiel's support. Listen to Thiel's latest podcast where he talks about Ivy League education and how the Dem candidates of late are outright dumb - thats the exact word he used.

They aren’t dumb.

They study Communism. Black Power. If they were dumb, Kamala Harris would not have gotten as close to the White House as she did. Don’t underestimate them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there virtually NO moderate Democrats who can take the reins over the party and reject the progressives they are ruining the entire Dems and preventing them from winning elections? The DNC is letting the mental patients run the asylum, when will the big brains behind the scene finally put their foot down and tell them to shut up and piss off? Look ahead too 2026 and 2028, the Dems have an abysmal pipeline of up and coming talent to draw from. Who could they possibly run for President? AOC? Have fun with a other loss. Whitmer? Give me a break, she ruined her career with that weirdo Doritos gaffe. Bashear? He is basically a nobody right now. Just a truly awful pool of talent. I don't think the Dems have a chance of winning the presidency at this rate until 2040 or beyond. The country has thoroughly rejected their progressive platform. Running a campaign from the perspective of a big blue city coastal elitist is a perfect recipe for more losses.

The only way they win is if GOP self immolates and then country explodes. But that destiny is not controlled by the Dems. The Dems need to kick out and stop supporting every single Boomer and Silent Gen pol they have in their ranks, for starters.

And if Trumps term goes just ok, and Vance runs in 2028, its game over for the Dems. Vance is the best part of Trump and the best part of Republicans combined , so he will get MAGA and GOP voters.

Vance is a white guy, and Dems don't like those. If Trump actually massively deports illegal aliens, Vance will have a strong outlook in 2028.

If the Dems nominate a subpar candidate like Biden again, yes, Vance could have a chance. Otherwise, he stands no chance against a legitimate Dem candidate.

Such as…

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Anonymous wrote:AOC could do it if she were a man. She has the right ideas but she will never be taken seriously by enough people.

AOC is not smart enough.

She literally interviewed for the job of “congresswoman” while working as a bartender.

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Anonymous wrote:What about Councilmember Trayon White?

Please, yes. Go with Trayon. He’s even better than Wes Moore.

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Anonymous wrote:AOC could do it if she were a man. She has the right ideas but she will never be taken seriously by enough people.

AOC is not smart enough.

She literally interviewed for the job of “congresswoman” while working as a bartender.

She’s terrible on camera. It’s impossible to take her seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:The winning candidates will come from the outside. The “pipeline” is an echo chamber that is getting smaller and smaller. It is kind of sad, but for all the big tent talk, it’s more like a cramped mausoleum—packed with stale ideas and gargoyles at the front that scare off anyone who doesn’t fit the mold, or who is remotely authentic. That’s my take.

For example, I was recently told by someone that I needed to realize that my anger about what is going on with America was a privilege, because I’m a white female, and that I should not express it if others can’t express it freely because they lack my privilege. I mean. wtf can anyone do with this nonsense?

It is imperative that well meaning people, politely, firmly and succinctly, tell those types of people to stop their nonsense.

Thisq person was a WOC senior to me; I let it go because I don’t want to be accused of being a shitty ally. She very pointedly told me about how her hand would be slapped for speaking as freely as I did, and not to do it again. But it does point to some major flaws with the idea of what allyship is within the party.

That's the point. She was a pretty crappy "ally" to you and grossly controlling, invalidating, and dare I say it patriarchal. Maybe she meant well but she needs to know that, for the sake of the cause, she needs to not be an ahole to other people. That's not even a micro-aggression that's full on aggression

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Anonymous wrote:The winning candidates will come from the outside. The “pipeline” is an echo chamber that is getting smaller and smaller. It is kind of sad, but for all the big tent talk, it’s more like a cramped mausoleum—packed with stale ideas and gargoyles at the front that scare off anyone who doesn’t fit the mold, or who is remotely authentic. That’s my take.

For example, I was recently told by someone that I needed to realize that my anger about what is going on with America was a privilege, because I’m a white female, and that I should not express it if others can’t express it freely because they lack my privilege. I mean. wtf can anyone do with this nonsense?

You realize this is the message that has been sent to white men for the past 40 years, right? And you're surprised at the uptick in MAGA votes?

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Can you get Andrew Yang back?

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Anonymous wrote:The winning candidates will come from the outside. The “pipeline” is an echo chamber that is getting smaller and smaller. It is kind of sad, but for all the big tent talk, it’s more like a cramped mausoleum—packed with stale ideas and gargoyles at the front that scare off anyone who doesn’t fit the mold, or who is remotely authentic. That’s my take.

For example, I was recently told by someone that I needed to realize that my anger about what is going on with America was a privilege, because I’m a white female, and that I should not express it if others can’t express it freely because they lack my privilege. I mean. wtf can anyone do with this nonsense?

It is imperative that well meaning people, politely, firmly and succinctly, tell those types of people to stop their nonsense.

Thisq person was a WOC senior to me; I let it go because I don’t want to be accused of being a shitty ally. She very pointedly told me about how her hand would be slapped for speaking as freely as I did, and not to do it again. But it does point to some major flaws with the idea of what allyship is within the party.

That's the point. She was a pretty crappy "ally" to you and grossly controlling, invalidating, and dare I say it patriarchal. Maybe she meant well but she needs to know that, for the sake of the cause, she needs to not be an ahole to other people. That's not even a micro-aggression that's full on aggression

Well? It’s rampant. Dems do need to fix this. Many friends have no interest in stepping up to lead because of this kind of crap.

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Absolutely love Stacy A & Pete B

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The winning candidates will come from the outside. The “pipeline” is an echo chamber that is getting smaller and smaller. It is kind of sad, but for all the big tent talk, it’s more like a cramped mausoleum—packed with stale ideas and gargoyles at the front that scare off anyone who doesn’t fit the mold, or who is remotely authentic. That’s my take.

For example, I was recently told by someone that I needed to realize that my anger about what is going on with America was a privilege, because I’m a white female, and that I should not express it if others can’t express it freely because they lack my privilege. I mean. wtf can anyone do with this nonsense?

You realize this is the message that has been sent to white men for the past 40 years, right? And you're surprised at the uptick in MAGA votes?

Yeah, I’m saying I am not suprised at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there virtually NO moderate Democrats who can take the reins over the party and reject the progressives they are ruining the entire Dems and preventing them from winning elections? The DNC is letting the mental patients run the asylum, when will the big brains behind the scene finally put their foot down and tell them to shut up and piss off? Look ahead too 2026 and 2028, the Dems have an abysmal pipeline of up and coming talent to draw from. Who could they possibly run for President? AOC? Have fun with a other loss. Whitmer? Give me a break, she ruined her career with that weirdo Doritos gaffe. Bashear? He is basically a nobody right now. Just a truly awful pool of talent. I don't think the Dems have a chance of winning the presidency at this rate until 2040 or beyond. The country has thoroughly rejected their progressive platform. Running a campaign from the perspective of a big blue city coastal elitist is a perfect recipe for more losses.

The only way they win is if GOP self immolates and then country explodes. But that destiny is not controlled by the Dems. The Dems need to kick out and stop supporting every single Boomer and Silent Gen pol they have in their ranks, for starters.

And if Trumps term goes just ok, and Vance runs in 2028, its game over for the Dems. Vance is the best part of Trump and the best part of Republicans combined , so he will get MAGA and GOP voters.

Vance is a white guy, and Dems don't like those. If Trump actually massively deports illegal aliens, Vance will have a strong outlook in 2028.

If the Dems nominate a subpar candidate like Biden again, yes, Vance could have a chance. Otherwise, he stands no chance against a legitimate Dem candidate.

Such as…

Whoever the people choose in the primary from what we hopefully be a field of at least 5 to 7 legitimate POTUS candidates. We have at least a handful of multi-term Dem governors that deserve a fair chance if they wish to run for POTUS. This is the path of least resistance to finding a nominee that is at least average.

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Anonymous wrote:For Democrats, the problem with Trump is he makes any other GOP candidate look normal by comparison.

The Democrats are going to have to choose their next candidate very carefully.

There are no candidates.
Bernie, RFKjr, Tulsi, Elon, etc. All gone and they took their supporters with them. Andrew Yang formed a third party. People like Rogan (and his millions of listeners) got their legalization of pot so the democrats don't hold sway over them. All that's left are beta men and women in the mold of Hilary, and... the Cheneys????.

Can't even "exploit then ignore" previously single issue voters anymore like BLM blacks, border Hispanics, and they lost a lot of Asians because of DEI in academic admissions. Pretty sure the trans issue alienated some of the abortion folks who have young daughters. Plus how can you rationally explain a coalition with single issue Zionists and pro-Palestinians in the same party while a genocide is going on?

America has become a binary country on issues because of the divisiveness of dems since Clinton hacks like Carville, so the political "center" doesn't exist anymore. May need to nominate and promote a candidate that probably has to move to the right of present-day center (which was where Democrats were a couple decades ago) and coopt some of the core issues of Republicans so that the Republicans move further to the extreme right. If you notice, the Donald was a genius because he was able to pull this off: voters saw Republicans as the anti-war party, the union party, and, ironically, the party for normal feminists. No more asking voters to suspend their disbelief with crazy policies and social engineering while not rewarding them.

Yes, absolutely. This is the way. This was actually Biden's mandate as candidate in 2020, and exactly why he won the primary. Unfortunately, he's just way too old, and he ignored the mandate during the 3.5 years prior to having to re-campaign. This is what voters want, and democrats need to find some candidates that represent this viewpoint (even if they are, gasp!, white males) or else we are screwed. Abortion with reasonable, clear limits, forget all identity politics, stop spending OPM like it's going out of style, and focus on the economy and opportunity to lower/middle class working people (not only gov't handouts to some of them in a "buy the vote" looking move). Bonus if they have an actual PLAN to set up a better system for fair, moderate, faster processing immigration that solves some of our labor needs without the uncontrolled chaos of the open border. Literally if you just poll Americans on ALL of these issues, they so heavily favor all of these topics it's mind blowing how the Democrats keep going with some such vastly unpopular and unworkable ideas.

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For example, I was recently told by someone that I needed to realize that my anger about what is going on with America was a privilege, because I’m a white female, and that I should not express it if others can’t express it freely because they lack my privilege. I mean. wtf can anyone do with this nonsense?

My eldest is in her 3rd year at an Ivy. What you describe is precisely what she is being taught in university.

This needs to change.

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Also, Clinton and Obama both sort of came out of nowhere and were relative unknowns on the national scene mere years before running for President, so anything IS possible. Governor of a moderate or purple ish state is definitely a great option. (So, no Pritzker or Newsom for sure.)