Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

[Anonymous]

I think once I saw them pushing all the celebrities up until the last minute, even as recent as this weekend having celebrities endorse her for no reason, it was not looking good.

Then when they had her doing the shoot of Harris knocking on peoples doors, it was pretty much a wrap.

[Anonymous]

I really did. I didn't vote for but I was sincerely sure that having $1B worth of donations and polls looking tight that yeah, she absolutely had a chance. Not with me personally and I'm a Dem who is liberal as it gets but I just thought that more people hated Trump than disliked her.

Both my 13 DD and 15 DS bet Trump and were right however!

[Anonymous]

I did. Mainly because of the vision of America I had.

That vision is now dead and my eyes are wide open. America is not the beacon of democracy, freedom and righteousness that I thought it was but that's on me for being an idealist. It's just like all the other countries, neither here not there, but no definitely not exceptional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White male, I voted for her even though I lean conservative. I honestly thought she was a shoo-in. I really thought enough of this country was tired of Trump...maybe not the policies he stands for, but the man himself, that they'd just say no. I was wrong.

I think what shocked me most was Latino men voting for him as much as they did, given his anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Because every Latino man that voted is legal and all Latino's are not the same. Why does this have to be explained to you dolts? This is why you lost.

[Anonymous]

I did, because I was gaslit by the democratic party on their unmatched voter outreach and GOTV operation. All things equal I felt Trump would win, but the ground game was sold as far superior.

[Anonymous]

Her going on the View saying that “nothing comes to mind” if she would’ve done something differently for the last 4 years, despite running on a campaign that she’ll fix things to make them better, basically ended her chances right there and then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. I wasn’t hopeful at all. She didn’t do well when she ran in the primaries 4 years ago. She ended up dropping out.

There were a lot of negative commercials about her authorizing sex change operations for prisoners and her lack of action on the border. The supportive commercials weren’t memorable to counter those ads. So people who aren’t that interested in politics formed inaccurate opinions.

She doesn’t exude charisma. And there are plenty of women who are slightly suspicious of women who don’t have kids.

I’m curious what this last part means. That they lack empathy or maternal instinct?

I’ve heard something similar but never fully understood

[Anonymous]

Reading these comments is very enlightening. White women get blamed for everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I truly did believe she would win. I thought she had the momentum, I thought she was having so much fun on the trail, I thought that women of all stripes would show up in record numbers to defeat the rapist Trump.

I was wrong!

I was shocked and remain sad. But also I just don't have the heart to be part of the resistance anymore. I don't think there will be another women's march. My feeling now is that this is what people wanted, and let them have it.

You didn't have to be shocked. But you have to diversify your news sources. There really are other realities out there.

This place really started to look loopy when they said poll after poll is a bad "republican" poll.

Females and other affinity groups were being highly over-sampled and there was a ton of push-polling going on.

Comcast, Meta and Disney really didn't want to lose power.

My news sources are fine. And I saw how close the polls were. I'm not saying that everything I read told me that there was no opportunity for Trump to win. Everything I read told me that the odds were about 50/50. And yet I believed Harris would win, for the reasons I described.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had hope because I thought society would be smart enough to vote against Trump at the very least even if they didnt like her.

But, even if you gave her credit for being qualified due to experience, I knew we would not select a woman over a white man even after after all he did/has done. Trump has managed to get a pass on all the vile language, behaviour, being a felon, failed business person and trying to overthrow our government and they all act like its a nothing burger. We could never run a candidate with this many flaws on the Dem side and fall all over ourselves to vote for them. Can't make this $hit up.

We need to stop running woman though because they are simply not electable at this moment in time regardless of how experienced they are.

Kamala had a better resume than Obama ran. How is that not sexist?

YOU my friend is what her and her staff are like and thus, lost. It's not about how good your resume is. And actually, I don't think it's all that. But to your point, leadership and sales and running v Trump who actually campaigns really well (maybe not to you but he won big didn't he?), is not about a resume. If you can't even get into the game, how will people know how well you play?

[Anonymous]

I never felt like she had it in the bag, but I will admit that I’m quite surprised that Trump won by this margin. I thought it would be close. While it’s no shocker that she lost, I will never be able to understand how so many people could vote for someone as ill suited for the job as Trump, especially when they’ve had the last 8 years to get to know him. What made Trump more palatable than the other Republican candidates who ran? That’s the thing I can’t grasp.

Why is the American electorate so fickle? They were lukewarm on Trump in 2016, turned off by his performance as president in 2020, he’s done nothing to become more appealing since then, and now they give him a mandate? He has never produced any credible plans to solve any of the issues he runs on. He admitted he has a concept of a plan…4 years after serving a 4 year term as president, during which he repeatedly said he was just weeks away from unveiling the most beautiful plan. We’re about to have another octogenarian at the helm. Trump talks about absurd nonsense. He gets confused easily. He’s having speech issues. He’s been complaining at rallies that he’s tired. Remember when those types of issues made people concerned about Biden’s presidency? But let’s embrace Trump’s decline!

[Anonymous]

I wanted her to but realized red American just can't have a black female in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because every Latino man that voted is legal and all Latino's are not the same. Why does this have to be explained to you dolts? This is why you lost.

Why I lost? I just said I lean conservative even though I voted against Trump. I also didn't say I thought all Latino's were the same, though I did mistakenly assume a majority would vote to protect friends, family, neighbors, etc. But, I'm not in that community and I'm also not a political strategist so it isn't my job to know. Just made an incorrect assumption. Not sure why you feel the need to throw names around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. I wasn’t hopeful at all. She didn’t do well when she ran in the primaries 4 years ago. She ended up dropping out.

There were a lot of negative commercials about her authorizing sex change operations for prisoners and her lack of action on the border. The supportive commercials weren’t memorable to counter those ads. So people who aren’t that interested in politics formed inaccurate opinions.

She doesn’t exude charisma. And there are plenty of women who are slightly suspicious of women who don’t have kids.

It’s a catch 22 really, not having kids because she was working on her career in much the way men who are married with children do, is what allowed her the focus to achieve the things she did.

I guess the right woman will be one who acts in the same manner as a similarly accomplish man, she’ll drop a few kids and then let her DH assume all domestic duties. While she is free to go back to achieving real excellence in her lifetime.

You know surgically check all the boxes just to give the appearance of giving a flip about anyone but yourself and your own ambitions.

Women will never win as long as we hold each other to such unrealistic ideals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did. Mainly because of the vision of America I had.

That vision is now dead and my eyes are wide open. America is not the beacon of democracy, freedom and righteousness that I thought it was but that's on me for being an idealist. It's just like all the other countries, neither here not there, but no definitely not exceptional.

You're wrong. It has nothing to do with America. It has to do with her not knowing how to run an effective campaign. Look at the facts - she has so much much and support! She couldn't win 1 out of 7 states that she should have had a chance in. JUST ONE she could not win. Really?

The vision you have of America isn't wrong. But no country is ideal. It very much is still a beacon of democracy. I don't know that there ever was as much freedom and righteousness that you think - that just plain doesn't exist - but compared with many countries, it has more for sure. That should be enough. I'm not sure why people like you have to feel we have to have 1000% of that - it's simply unrealistic. But we have always had enough and I believe will continue because culturally, we're set up to. American culture is a melting pot of so many cultures and that's its strength and value. Even Trump deporting all immigrants out will not change the nature of the culture that is the US. I say this as a 2nd gen immigrant woman.

The Dems messed up. Kamala was a horrible candidate. It's as simple as this. It's not rocket science or that much drama about it. Has not to do with how people voted - they aren't happy, they're angry and they brought what they think they needed to buy. It's as simple as they made a mistake but it doesn't mean we are now all going to sink. It just means that we will have to figure out how to curb the impact of this and it may take awhile..