WSJ -Sorry, Harvard. Everyone Wants to go to School in the South

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t doubt this is happen at the margin, if this was truly an acute phenomenon, wouldn’t acceptance rates, application rates yield rates etc all be plummeting at northeastern t20s or even t50s?

This doesn’t seem to be the case

It’s like the stats that show New England losing population but housing still transacts at an unreal valuation

With the Common App, it's become so easy to apply to dozens of schools. Every college in America has seen an enormous increase in applications since the Common App became the norm. Plus, T30 type colleges will always receive a gazillion applications, particularly as the college universe becomes increasingly oriented toward elite schools and public universities.

But I think the article is highlighting the increased interest among students in the NE for flagship schools in Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina and so on. And the data backs that up. Also, most southern flagship universities - Texas, Virginia, Florida, UNC, Georgia - are far better academically than public schools up north. Even non-flagships like Georgia Tech and NC State are going to be better than any public college in the Northeast. People are looking for value, solid academics, fun, and a good overall environment to spend four years. Not to mention decent weather during the academic year. And the South has that.

So they should say “state school caliber students” from the north. Not all students

And not use Harvard in the title

[Anonymous]

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Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Because if they used a school that actually is attractive from up north, the story would fall apart

They had to select tufts because h, m, bc, Wellesley etc would not make the story work

No you missed the point…the kid they profiled has Tufts as his #1 choice but he couldn’t afford it.

If Tufts had given more aid…he would be at Tufts.

[Anonymous]

Lol this headline is like dropping a grenade into this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever floats your boat.
But DD is not keen to go anywhere south due to the draconian abortion policies and I think that’s smart.

+1

Awful weather first for mine, followed by what you said

Add in the anti LGBTQ+ nonsense for my child

The farthest South we looked was a small school in Raleigh. My daughter didn’t even apply in the end (they had the latest deadline and she already had yesses). She wound up in MA after applying to 3 schools in VA, 2 in MI, 1 in PA, 1 in MA, and one in St Louis area (close to IL line - this was the only reason an exception was made)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol this headline is like dropping a grenade into this forum.

I know, it’s hilarious! 😂

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From The Southeast. Private colleges up North have been a tough sell for many top students down here, even before the pandemic. It’s hard to beat tuition incentives such as Georgia’s Zell Miller and Hope scholarships and Florida’s Bright Futures for in-state students. People down here are incredibly loyal to and enthusiastic about their state flagships.

Also, let's not pretend that MOST of the kids choosing the southern schools have a good shot of getting in some of the top NE schools. Because they just don't.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

The northeastern schools have a cultural problem because culturally they moved away from testing as an admissions criteria. That means that the smart but quirky kids could no longer get in, but all the hard-working grade grubbers still could. Their student bodies are therefore now primarily made up of kids with the project management skills of earlier-stage management consultants, but also the questionable ethics, lack of creativity, and risk-adverse personalities to go with that. It makes for a worse student experience for people who might be smart but don’t want to live like year three McKinsey associates starting at age 14.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

The article dipshit. Read it.

It shows fairly small numbers at Old Miss (one of the schools they profiled)…but it’s up from very small numbers.

The raw number of kids attending Ole Miss, Alabama, UTK, etc. from the mid-Atlantic and North is not nominal. You're cherry picking Ole Miss which is a smaller university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Enrollment almost everywhere is increasing.

Incorrect. https://hechingerreport.org/colleges-are-now-closing-at-a-pace-of-one-a-week-what-happens-to-the-students/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

The article dipshit. Read it.

It shows fairly small numbers at Old Miss (one of the schools they profiled)…but it’s up from very small numbers.

The raw number of kids attending Ole Miss, Alabama, UTK, etc. from the mid-Atlantic and North is not nominal. You're cherry picking Ole Miss which is a smaller university.

The entire northeast is 4% of Ole Miss…that’s the entire northeast. Yes, it’s a nominal number up from an even smaller nominal number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

The article dipshit. Read it.

It shows fairly small numbers at Old Miss (one of the schools they profiled)…but it’s up from very small numbers.

The raw number of kids attending Ole Miss, Alabama, UTK, etc. from the mid-Atlantic and North is not nominal. You're cherry picking Ole Miss which is a smaller university.

The entire northeast is 4% of Ole Miss…that’s the entire northeast. Yes, it’s a nominal number up from an even smaller nominal number.

Is Clemson nominal? https://www.clemson.edu/admissions/undergraduate-admissions/admissions-statistics.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

The article dipshit. Read it.

It shows fairly small numbers at Old Miss (one of the schools they profiled)…but it’s up from very small numbers.

The raw number of kids attending Ole Miss, Alabama, UTK, etc. from the mid-Atlantic and North is not nominal. You're cherry picking Ole Miss which is a smaller university.

The entire northeast is 4% of Ole Miss…that’s the entire northeast. Yes, it’s a nominal number up from an even smaller nominal number.

Is Clemson nominal? https://www.clemson.edu/admissions/undergraduate-admissions/admissions-statistics.html

What’s the percentage and the number? For the story to hold it needs to apply to all the schools they mention, no?

If it doesn’t, then the article should say a very limited number of southern schools are popular, no?

[Anonymous]

It's really interesting they want northern kids. If the kids settle there, that will certainly turns places blue for the most part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread was deleted.

Once more, the article doesn’t support the title well.

It shows CA applications increasing just as much as the south yet they had lockdowns and protests.

They profile a kid at GA Tech that actually wanted to attend Tufts, was accepted and couldn’t afford it.

Strange situation to highlight.

Did you miss that enrollment in the South is indeed increasing?

Got it…but not to the detriment of schools that had lockdowns or protests (CA schools as an example) or even Harvard (where the article said applications to Harvard are also way up).

Also, the nominal numbers of northern kids attending are still small…just increasing off a tiny base.

Once more…why profile a kid that actually wanted to attend Tufts as a first choice? That seems like an odd decision.

Do you have a cite for this?

The article dipshit. Read it.

It shows fairly small numbers at Old Miss (one of the schools they profiled)…but it’s up from very small numbers.

The raw number of kids attending Ole Miss, Alabama, UTK, etc. from the mid-Atlantic and North is not nominal. You're cherry picking Ole Miss which is a smaller university.

The entire northeast is 4% of Ole Miss…that’s the entire northeast. Yes, it’s a nominal number up from an even smaller nominal number.

Is Clemson nominal? https://www.clemson.edu/admissions/undergraduate-admissions/admissions-statistics.html

What’s the percentage and the number? For the story to hold it needs to apply to all the schools they mention, no?

If it doesn’t, then the article should say a very limited number of southern schools are popular, no?

You can do the math if you want. More kids are going south than ever before, even if those numbers were once small, they're growing. Sorry that bothers you.