WSJ -Sorry, Harvard. Everyone Wants to go to School in the South

Anonymous
https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.


Sorry, wrong link: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/sorry-harvard-everyone-wants-to-go-to-college-in-the-south-now-235d7934?st=7XZF4n&reflink=article_copyURL_share
Anonymous
From The Southeast. Private colleges up North have been a tough sell for many top students down here, even before the pandemic. It’s hard to beat tuition incentives such as Georgia’s Zell Miller and Hope scholarships and Florida’s Bright Futures for in-state students. People down here are incredibly loyal to and enthusiastic about their state flagships.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.


This is a huge factor. Luckily my kids feel the same way. I am not paying top dollar for indoctrination and waving terrorist flags.
Anonymous
While I don’t doubt this is happen at the margin, if this was truly an acute phenomenon, wouldn’t acceptance rates, application rates yield rates etc all be plummeting at northeastern t20s or even t50s?

This doesn’t seem to be the case

It’s like the stats that show New England losing population but housing still transacts at an unreal valuation

Anonymous
Great! Enjoy. To each their own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:While I don’t doubt this is happen at the margin, if this was truly an acute phenomenon, wouldn’t acceptance rates, application rates yield rates etc all be plummeting at northeastern t20s or even t50s?

This doesn’t seem to be the case

It’s like the stats that show New England losing population but housing still transacts at an unreal valuation



*accceptance rates rising
*application and yield plummeting
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.


NP. It’s because colleges in the northeast have become grim, depressing, and expensive. Also, the student bodies are made up of Tracy Flicks that can’t be trusted.

Kids who want a good education but don’t want to worry about their lab partners sabotaging them to get .5 more points on a quiz or reporting them to the administration for wrongthink are headed south.
Anonymous
Not surprising as the population in the US has been moving South and West.
Anonymous
Great more college educated southerns could make it far less backward. - reformed Floridian
Anonymous
Vanderbilt explores an enhanced presence in New York City

https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2024/09/26/vanderbilt-growth-initiative/

Vanderbilt Leases Struggling NYC Seminary for Campus Expansion

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-26/vanderbilt-leases-struggling-nyc-seminary-for-campus-expansion
Anonymous
Whatever floats your boat.
But DD is not keen to go anywhere south due to the draconian abortion policies and I think that’s smart.
Anonymous
My kid is at a SEC school.

Only 1 kid from their HS was there a handful of years ago. Then 2 went the next year. Then a handful the next year. And now nearly a dozen are visiting.

Social media and word of mouth are compelling.

I reserved judgment when my kid applied. The tour was impressive; they want smart kids from the north and rolled out the red carpet for us. My kid is thriving and having a blast.
Anonymous
Hell no!! We were near VA beach for games yesterday and it was close to 90 hot and humid and no shade.

Misery. My kid is about 6 hours north and has had zero rain. It has rained for a week straight here in the DMV. It’s been low 70s sunny with cool nights in the low 60s/upper 50s. Perfection.

He’s also a kid that likes winter.

Let’s face it: global warming has changed the climate. There are far more hurricanes and it’s hotter and more humid all the way to DC now. College trend is behind the housing trend where people are now leaving the south and hard hit hurricane areas and going north or Midwest.
Anonymous
^ low 70s since my kid arrived last week in August and still now Sept 29th and forecasted all next week. 6.5 hours north. That have had zero rain unlike this miserable week and half.
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