Teamsters decline to endorse a candidate…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I hope Harris does remember this moving forward. No more pension bailouts, fellas, and don't go crying to anyone if you end up with a union-busting administration!

I expect Harris to govern honorably, not follow Trump into selling Presidential favors for personal gain.

Agree she can't follow Trump's punitive model. And she's smart enough to operate with an eye toward future elections as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teamsters Statement:

https://teamster.org/2024/09/teamsters-no-end...t-for-u-s-president/

Leadership doesn't think either candidate is better for unions. Membership is split. 60-40 one way or the other is huge in an election, but not huge for justifying an endorsement.
They weren't impressed by Biden during the Railway strike.

Does anyone have a well-documented argument for why leadership or membership is making a mistake?

Abortion doesn't count; that's not Teamsters responsibility, even if individual members find it important for non-union reasons.

I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Biden (and by extension, Harris) has been the most pro-union President in decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teamsters Statement:

https://teamster.org/2024/09/teamsters-no-end...t-for-u-s-president/

Leadership doesn't think either candidate is better for unions. Membership is split. 60-40 one way or the other is huge in an election, but not huge for justifying an endorsement.
They weren't impressed by Biden during the Railway strike.

Does anyone have a well-documented argument for why leadership or membership is making a mistake?

Abortion doesn't count; that's not Teamsters responsibility, even if individual members find it important for non-union reasons.

Seriously? What a joke.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some more details and insight from Politico:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/18/team...24-election-00179900

""Floyd, who runs the largest Teamsters local in New York City, voted no endorsement because of the membership poll. But his local, 237, will be endorsing Harris, he said.

“The Teamsters are more conservative than other unions … we’re to the left of the building trades and to the right of everyone else,” Floyd told POLITICO. “The Teamsters are not a reflection of the rest of the country and what’s going on.”"

[Anonymous]

Wow. this is nuts it's means amount unions who were generally Democrat they overwhelmingly support trump . Not good for Harris

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teamsters Statement:

https://teamster.org/2024/09/teamsters-no-end...t-for-u-s-president/

Leadership doesn't think either candidate is better for unions. Membership is split. 60-40 one way or the other is huge in an election, but not huge for justifying an endorsement.
They weren't impressed by Biden during the Railway strike.

Does anyone have a well-documented argument for why leadership or membership is making a mistake?

Abortion doesn't count; that's not Teamsters responsibility, even if individual members find it important for non-union reasons.

I'm calling shenanigans on this one. Biden (and by extension, Harris) has been the most pro-union President in decades.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. this is nuts it's means amount unions who were generally Democrat they overwhelmingly support trump . Not good for Harris

It's been changing the last decade as more and more people either drop out of unions, or make them more conservative leaning.

Really it is by default though.

Most union members say, "We didn't leave the Democrat Party, rather the Democrat Party left us and Americans."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I hope Harris does remember this moving forward. No more pension bailouts, fellas, and don't go crying to anyone if you end up with a union-busting administration!

Right. The Biden-Harris administration bailed out the Teamsters with $36 BILLION over the last three years. And yet they still don't endorse her.

That says something about Harris. Not sure exactly what, but it's not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I hope Harris does remember this moving forward. No more pension bailouts, fellas, and don't go crying to anyone if you end up with a union-busting administration!

Right. The Biden-Harris administration bailed out the Teamsters with $36 BILLION over the last three years. And yet they still don't endorse her.

That says something about Harris. Not sure exactly what, but it's not good.

It says that we need some good reporting on the story.

That said, I agree that Harris is not a spiteful transactional person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. this is nuts it's means amount unions who were generally Democrat they overwhelmingly support trump . Not good for Harris

Unions supporting Harris:

Actors’ Equity Association
AFL-CIO
New York State AFL-CIO
Amalgamated Transit Union
American Federation of Government Employees
American Federation of School Administrators
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
American Federation of Musicians
American Federation of Teachers
American Postal Workers Union
Association of Flight Attendants
Communication Workers of America
International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE)
International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers
International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail & Transportation Workers
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters Joint Council 28, Local 186 and Local 572
International Longshore and Warehouse Union
International Organization of Masters, Mates & Pilots
International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
International Union of Elevator Constructors
International Union of Operating Engineers
International Union of Painters and Allied Trades
Laborers International Union of North America
National Education Association
National Nurses United
National Union of Healthcare Workers
North America’s Building Trades Union
Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union
Seafarers International Union
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
UNITE HERE
United Auto Workers
United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
United Farm Workers
United Food and Commercial Workers International (UFCW)
United Steelworkers
Writers Guild of America West PAC


But, sure "unions overwhelmingly support Trump," you stooge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. this is nuts it's means amount unions who were generally Democrat they overwhelmingly support trump . Not good for Harris

Unions supporting Harris:

Actors’ Equity Association
AFL-CIO
New York State AFL-CIO
Amalgamated Transit Union
American Federation of Government Employees
American Federation of School Administrators
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
American Federation of Musicians
American Federation of Teachers
American Postal Workers Union
Association of Flight Attendants
Communication Workers of America
International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE)
International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers
International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail & Transportation Workers
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters Joint Council 28, Local 186 and Local 572
International Longshore and Warehouse Union
International Organization of Masters, Mates & Pilots
International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
International Union of Elevator Constructors
International Union of Operating Engineers
International Union of Painters and Allied Trades
Laborers International Union of North America
National Education Association
National Nurses United
National Union of Healthcare Workers
North America’s Building Trades Union
Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union
Seafarers International Union
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
UNITE HERE
United Auto Workers
United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
United Farm Workers
United Food and Commercial Workers International (UFCW)
United Steelworkers
Writers Guild of America West PAC


But, sure "unions overwhelmingly support Trump," you stooge.

Ha (*applause*)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I hope Harris does remember this moving forward. No more pension bailouts, fellas, and don't go crying to anyone if you end up with a union-busting administration!

Right. The Biden-Harris administration bailed out the Teamsters with $36 BILLION over the last three years. And yet they still don't endorse her.

That says something about Harris. Not sure exactly what, but it's not good.

It says the group of socially conservative, uneducated men will vote against their best interests rather than vote for a Black woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What pussies they are. Pretend to be tough guy, working class Americans but refuse to stand up and support a union supporting candidate. Cowards and hypocrites.

You are too used to groups like AIPAC brainwashing members. Tough guy working class will be earning good money while pussies are replaced by AI and living on subsistence from UBI.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What pussies they are. Pretend to be tough guy, working class Americans but refuse to stand up and support a union supporting candidate. Cowards and hypocrites.

You want them to be told that they should vote for certain candidates. They are smarter than you think and can make their own decisions.

The benefit of an endorsement is not that the leadership tells its members how to vote, but rather that the union organizes campaign events and does fundraising. This is a nice way for the Teamsters to award Biden/Harris for saving their pensions. When Harris wins I hope that she will remember.

Are you saying Harris's memory is as bad as Biden's and she can't remember from September 2024 to Janaury 2025?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. this is nuts it's means amount unions who were generally Democrat they overwhelmingly support trump . Not good for Harris

Unions supporting Harris:

Actors’ Equity Association
AFL-CIO
New York State AFL-CIO
Amalgamated Transit Union
American Federation of Government Employees
American Federation of School Administrators
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
American Federation of Musicians
American Federation of Teachers
American Postal Workers Union
Association of Flight Attendants
Communication Workers of America
International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE)
International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers
International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail & Transportation Workers
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters Joint Council 28, Local 186 and Local 572
International Longshore and Warehouse Union
International Organization of Masters, Mates & Pilots
International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers
International Union of Elevator Constructors
International Union of Operating Engineers
International Union of Painters and Allied Trades
Laborers International Union of North America
National Education Association
National Nurses United
National Union of Healthcare Workers
North America’s Building Trades Union
Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union
Seafarers International Union
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
UNITE HERE
United Auto Workers
United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America
United Farm Workers
United Food and Commercial Workers International (UFCW)
United Steelworkers
Writers Guild of America West PAC


But, sure "unions overwhelmingly support Trump," you stooge.

About half of their members have Trump/Vance bumper stickers. Hope the powerful Department Store Retailer Union can bring it home for Harris.