Could someone be healthy even if overweight

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 5’4 and hover between 165-170.

My cholesterol is good, triglycerides normal, low blood pressure, good immune system, lots of energy.

So in my case—yes!


I'm 5'2 and 155. My blood work is really good and I have "the blood pressure of a teenager." I lift weights 3-4 times a week plus play tennis, hike or play pickleball at least 2 other days a week. I'm 53.


Pretty much the same except I'm 160. I eat a highish protein vegetarian diet heavy of vegetables and comex carbs. I do yoga once a week, lift heavy 3x a week, and do intense cardio 2x a week.

But because I have some extra fat around my body because of medications (so it doesn't really matter I could have the extra way too because I enjoy food!) people on here are convinced I'm going to keel over a heart attack or obesity related disease on one day.

It's a good thing I don't really care what I'm other people think.


5 2 and 160 is not a healthy weight. The risks that come from being obese are likely less than the risks of not taking your medication. However this doesn’t mean that weighing 160 at 5 2 is healthy. Have you considered one of the new weight loss drugs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:yes, you can be healthy and overweight. You can also be an ideal weight an unhealthy. Friend's husband who was a normal weight just diet from a heart attach while out for a run. People just love to judge fat people because they can see that they are fat vs the unhealthy thin people who appear fine on the outside.

Now I will say that one are that is proven to suffer from excess weight are the joints. Carrying too much extra weight is not good for your joints and gets worse as you age.


I think even the joint thing is dependent on your build.

I have a slight build -- narrow hips and shoulders and smaller bones. Same for my mom. Excess weight is hell on our joints. In my mom's case it has led to a spiral where if she gains weight she also exercises less because it's uncomfortable and then she gains more. We are average height but just very light and narrow skeletal frame.

But I have a friend who is 5'9" and very solidly built. She has to gain quite a bit of weight for it to impact her joints at all. She's also just more muscular then I am by nature especially in her upper body and I this results in a better balance of muscle to fat even when she gains. Whereas for me I need to be pretty lean to maintain a good muscle to fat ratio.
Anonymous
Possible, yes. Likely, no. But everybody here is the exception and equivalent to female rugby players in their 20s. Or has a story about some skinny guy that died during a run, so therefore being overweight is meritorious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Define overweight? I mean - look at that female rugby player. She is technically "overweight" by BMI but she's 100% more in shape than most people on the planet.


You know what one means when they say overweight.


Actually it’s not well defined and the military has gotten away from BMI because it doesn’t work, Not only for muscular people, but for skinny people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Overweight, maybe, but definitely not obese. It doesn’t matter if there is someone skinny who is even less healthy than you. This is a really dumb rationale. It doesn’t matter if one sub set of tests looks fine, those aren’t the whole picture.

Excess fat creates a cascade of health risks.


Risks not issues which are realized risks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. Eventually it takes a toll.


So does running, weight lifting, being underweight, eating high protein diet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. Eventually it takes a toll.


So does running, weight lifting, being underweight, eating high protein diet.


If you run ultras multiple times a year, strong man build or body build to huge amounts of weight lifting, are extremely underweight or are somehow dumb enough to eat a massive amount of the wrong type of protein intake for you body, yes those are a problem.

Meanwhile, being overweight consistently throughout your life for the run of the mill average person means 1) carrying the visceral fat that usually comes with that, 2) lack of cardio fitness, 3) poor body composition, and a whole other host of things. All of these are known to be bad for health span and longevity. The science and studies show you that. People just don’t like the data so they come up with “running is bad for the knees” among other nonsense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 5’4 and hover between 165-170.

My cholesterol is good, triglycerides normal, low blood pressure, good immune system, lots of energy.

So in my case—yes!


Keep telling yourself that.


Well, my medical data isn’t false. Its not a lie, my doctor had confirmed through blood tests and other vital signs. I’m sorry if it bothers you that someone so much heavier than you doesn’t have clogged arteries or a fatty liver. I eat a very clean diet, I’ve just always had a slow metabolism and I don’t feel like starving myself to lose a few pounds.
Anonymous
Of course (?) is this a serious question?
Anonymous
No, there are multiple studies substantiating that BMI of 26-27 is healthier as you age. Being underweight is not healthy.


I think it really depends on the individual body. The only way I can get to a BMI of 27 is to eat 3000+ calories of mostly junk food daily and skipping exercise for multiple years (ask me how I know!) I doubt that would be healthy for me in the long term.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m 5’4 and hover between 165-170.

My cholesterol is good, triglycerides normal, low blood pressure, good immune system, lots of energy.

So in my case—yes!


I'm 5'2 and 155. My blood work is really good and I have "the blood pressure of a teenager." I lift weights 3-4 times a week plus play tennis, hike or play pickleball at least 2 other days a week. I'm 53.


Pretty much the same except I'm 160. I eat a highish protein vegetarian diet heavy of vegetables and comex carbs. I do yoga once a week, lift heavy 3x a week, and do intense cardio 2x a week.

But because I have some extra fat around my body because of medications (so it doesn't really matter I could have the extra way too because I enjoy food!) people on here are convinced I'm going to keel over a heart attack or obesity related disease on one day.

It's a good thing I don't really care what I'm other people think.

What medications?🤔
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Possible, yes. Likely, no. But everybody here is the exception and equivalent to female rugby players in their 20s. Or has a story about some skinny guy that died during a run, so therefore being overweight is meritorious.

And everyone's kids are also "strong" and "big boned" with some "baby fat" despite being a decade past anyone calling them a baby. I have seen most of my immediate and extended family live in complete denial at the state of their bodies. It's alarming AF.
Anonymous
Yes. In fact, an overweight person who has adopted healthy habits is in a better place than a thin person who has not had to reckon with their unhealthy habits! You can become overweight, adopt a super healthy lifestyle and never be “thin” again but be extremely healthy. if you think about it, since our bodies are designed to store fat for a rainy day, it would make sense that they can store some amount in a healthy way. They’re designed too. Different people have (drastically) different thresholds for when the amount of fat becomes metabolically unhealthy.

Joint health - I frankly see long time athletes having many more joint problems than fat people, so I think that concern is also overblown.
Anonymous
Medically healthy, sure. I've got beautiful labs, and am "obese".

Psychologically healthy, no. Not in this culture, where every idiot is an online-MD, and people feel totally comfortable fatshaming you, hiding it as concern for your health.

Being overweight makes you a target, and the damage the stress does to your body isn't good for your health. And if you try to remind people of this, they won't hear it, revealing that it was never about your health in the first place, it was about having an acceptable group of people to bully and blame.

So no, you can't be fat and healthy in the US. You can be clinically normal, for an extended period of time (maybe even your whole life), but your mental health will take a beating for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Define overweight? I mean - look at that female rugby player. She is technically "overweight" by BMI but she's 100% more in shape than most people on the planet.


You know what one means when they say overweight.


Actually it’s not well defined and the military has gotten away from BMI because it doesn’t work, Not only for muscular people, but for skinny people.


It is generally defined and you know exactly what op means. You are just being contrarian and obtuse.
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