Colleges with Frats that don’t drink

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the responses. I only have experience with my son who is currently rushing at a big SEC school. There are a couple of non drinking fraternities to rush (and plenty of drinking ones of course).

Like always, people are making comments based on 1994 era assumptions.

[Anonymous]

Laugh.

The set of Frats with no drinking at all equals the null set.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the responses. I only have experience with my son who is currently rushing at a big SEC school. There are a couple of non drinking fraternities to rush (and plenty of drinking ones of course).

Like always, people are making comments based on 1994 era assumptions.

I'm a current student. It's not off base that Frats heavily drink and actively promote heavy drinking culture lol. That's kinda like...their thing. Many people join, because it's a free ticket to drunk partying with girls. I know DCUM likes to sugar coat with pure intentions of just networking and "finding the right crowd," but most guys are their for the girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Laugh.

The set of Frats with no drinking at all equals the null set.

Laugh. Nobody said that. Nobody said anything close to that. The question is has anyone raised a son who WON'T hassle a kid who doesn't drink? Answer from you is an obvious, Nope!

[Anonymous]

NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

[Anonymous]

The frats reputations are pretty well known.

I work on a campus and there are plenty of kids in frats who don’t drink. Big I don’t work at Alabama etc. I’m sure there are some schools where drinking is their main thing, as someone pointed out above. That hasn’t been the vibe on our campus for 15 years at least, but this is super school dependent. Colleges w frats take vastly different approaches, usually based in history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.

I’ve seen it work out where kid’s dad is a very famous CEO/finance and employs lots of graduates. Kid also has access to private plane. That kid got a pass from hazing/ the hard drinking part of pledging and every house wanted him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Case Western

Was coming here to suggest Case as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.

I’ve seen it work out where kid’s dad is a very famous CEO/finance and employs lots of graduates. Kid also has access to private plane. That kid got a pass from hazing/ the hard drinking part of pledging and every house wanted him.

What colleges still have the hazing you’re talking about? Really, most schools have gotten rid of those. One lawsuit and they’re done. Drinking? Of course. But hazing during rush w 18 year olds? That is no longer the standard. Again, I’m sure it’s some places but it’s not the norm.

At UCLA, not drinking and being part of the one of the more popular, desired frats is totally possible.

As someone said earlier, weed is so much more popular than drinking. Hard drinking hardly exists at some of these places.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.

I’ve seen it work out where kid’s dad is a very famous CEO/finance and employs lots of graduates. Kid also has access to private plane. That kid got a pass from hazing/ the hard drinking part of pledging and every house wanted him.

What colleges still have the hazing you’re talking about? Really, most schools have gotten rid of those. One lawsuit and they’re done. Drinking? Of course. But hazing during rush w 18 year olds? That is no longer the standard. Again, I’m sure it’s some places but it’s not the norm.

At UCLA, not drinking and being part of the one of the more popular, desired frats is totally possible.

As someone said earlier, weed is so much more popular than drinking. Hard drinking hardly exists at some of these places.

What hole are you living in?
Talk to your sons at schools?

My kid is starting college in a few weeks and his friends, from his private school who just finished their freshman year, have reported alcohol induced hazing at (some requiring hospitalization):

Michigan (the worst)
Stanford
UVA
Cornell

Interestingly, vanderbilt and northwestern don’t seem as bad.

Kids know a lot - word gets around quickly.

[Anonymous]

It depends on how you define hazing.

[Anonymous]

He may want to wait to join until spring or as a Sophomore. This would give him time to find the right group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.

I’ve seen it work out where kid’s dad is a very famous CEO/finance and employs lots of graduates. Kid also has access to private plane. That kid got a pass from hazing/ the hard drinking part of pledging and every house wanted him.

What colleges still have the hazing you’re talking about? Really, most schools have gotten rid of those. One lawsuit and they’re done. Drinking? Of course. But hazing during rush w 18 year olds? That is no longer the standard. Again, I’m sure it’s some places but it’s not the norm.

At UCLA, not drinking and being part of the one of the more popular, desired frats is totally possible.

As someone said earlier, weed is so much more popular than drinking. Hard drinking hardly exists at some of these places.

What hole are you living in?
Talk to your sons at schools?

My kid is starting college in a few weeks and his friends, from his private school who just finished their freshman year, have reported alcohol induced hazing at (some requiring hospitalization):

Michigan (the worst)
Stanford
UVA
Cornell

Interestingly, vanderbilt and northwestern don’t seem as bad.

Kids know a lot - word gets around quickly.

Fraternities have finally realize that alcohol fueled hazing is not what they should be doing. I think generally they have been scared silly on that. Unfortunately, they have been creative with coming up with other ideas that are not related to alcohol, but could still be just as deadly.

[Anonymous]

Respectfully, this is for your son to navigate, not you.