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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP—Genuine question: If a kid really and truly cannot drink (medical), but really fits well and gets a bid, how do they handle pledging? I know they are not supposed to haze. But many do. How do you suss this out during rush? Does the kid simply state the situation or bring it up later when offered a drink? It’s the pledging part that I am curious about.  [/quote]

Honestly…a frat with a drinking culture won’t give a kid a bid…it’s part of the rush scene as well.

Your scenario just won’t play out.[/quote]

I’ve seen it work out where kid’s dad is a very famous CEO/finance and employs lots of graduates. Kid also has access to private plane. That kid got a pass from hazing/ the hard drinking part of pledging  and every house wanted him.[/quote]

What colleges still have the hazing you’re talking about? Really, most schools have gotten rid of those. One lawsuit and they’re done.  Drinking? Of course. But hazing during rush w 18 year olds? That is no longer the standard. Again, I’m sure it’s some places but it’s not the norm.

At UCLA, not drinking and being part of the one of the more popular, desired frats is totally possible.

As someone said earlier, weed is so much more popular than drinking. Hard drinking hardly exists at some of these places.  [/quote]

What hole are you living in?
Talk to your sons at schools?

My kid is starting college in a few weeks and his friends, from his private school who just finished their freshman year, have reported alcohol induced hazing at (some requiring hospitalization):

Michigan (the worst)
Stanford
UVA
Cornell

Interestingly, vanderbilt and northwestern don’t seem as bad.

Kids know a lot - word gets around quickly.
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Fraternities have finally realize that alcohol fueled hazing is not what they should be doing. I think generally they have been scared silly on that. Unfortunately, they have been creative with coming up with other ideas that are not related to alcohol, but could still be just as deadly. [/quote]

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