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Michigan is bad.
Stanford has no alcohol during recruitment cycles. Houses can (and have) been disbanded after one offense. I'm sure it used to be different. There were lawsuits - things change. I'm not shocked UVA is bad. I think anything southern school is going to be different. Cornell has a TON of greek like that have nothing to do with partying. I wish people would add their ages and/or ages of their kids. Even if your kid went to college prepandemic, it's different. Colleges used that to reset a lot of things. They realized when they had a couple years of no upperclassman to say, "we can't change that!", they had a moment of opportunity |
Ok…so less than 1% can get a bid…I gather if you are celebrity, you could also get a pass. For everyone else…you just won’t get a bid if that is the frat culture. |
Cornell had a hazing death that made it to the NYT. Private school kid from Miami. |
I have a kid at Cornell. It’s def part of the culture. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/13/nyregion/cornell-fraternities-hazing-death-antonio-tsialas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare |
saying there is greek like that has nothing to do with partying =/= there are no greeks that do have heavy drinking. the OP is asking is there room for her kid, and yes, there are plenty of places with room for her kid. |
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Greek affiliation greatly increases the odds of binge drinking, so your son’s preferences are somewhat opposing.
I suggest you look up the survey responses on UNIGO related to how much pressure there is to drink on various campuses. He might also consider St Olaf’s which sounds like a great place. |
| My son graduated last may from VT and was in one of the smaller frats. While he drinks and most of the brothers do too it would have been fine if someone didn’t. |
You aren’t really there, and can’t speak to how a freshman teenager would feel. |
| LOL!!! I went to MIT and we drank hard. We also were the only school in the NE where the average frat/sorority GPA was above the general population of students. At no time was the administration concerned about our academic performance. |
I am sure there are nondrinkers in frats but I doubt they made it through pledging and hazing without drinking. |
I went to Harvard and the MIT people drank us under the table. My daughter is at MIT and doesn’t drink (she had an organ transplant and can’t). She said weed and pills much bigger than drinking. “It’s not the 90s anymore, Mom” |
Too many pills at MIT. Btw today, the Harvard kids go to MIT to party. |
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We stayed near the corner on a Thursday night and my athletic, non-drinking son was turned off by the party scene. My husband and I loved it. lol But- I’m glad he’s not into that. Went to a smaller school. |