Question for someone who knows: is there anything voters can do to actually convince Biden to step aside?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is nothing voters can do. It’s all controlled by the DNC.

Technically, the DNC has many hundreds of members, but the actual nerve center of the party is this committee, small enough to fit into a single D.C. hotel room.

The roughly 30 members of the Rules and Bylaws Committee are far from famous. You’ve heard of Ilhan Omar, AOC, and Gretchen Whitmer, but have you heard of… Frank Leone? Ken Martin? David McDonald? But anonymous or not, this is the body with the power to change how the Democrats pick their nominee.

And this body, as it happens, is stacked in Biden’s favor. Membership in this critical committee is controlled by the chairman of the DNC, Jaime Harrison, formerly chair of the South Carolina Democrats. Harrison owes his position to being chosen by Joe Biden, and as expected of him, he’s filled Rules and Bylaws with reliable Biden backers. A year ago, over loud protests from some sections of the party, the Rules and Bylaws Committee executed Biden’s request to reshuffle the Democratic primary calendar to reduce the prominence of states that are “too white.” They demoted Iowa and New Hampshire (the states where Biden bombed) and elevated South Carolina (the state that rocketed him to the nomination in 2020).

The presence of so many Biden political allies implies, on the flip side, a lack of allies for anyone else. If there really were a viable plot to install Gavin Newsom specifically, it would help to have Newsom political allies somewhere high up in the Democrat Party apparatus. But instead, such allies are missing. That’s no surprise, because he’s not the one who controls the Rules Committee.

In short, the DNC is not some independent actor on the left. It is a body substantially controlled by Joe Biden. Expecting it to change course in order to save the Democrats is like expecting Donald Trump’s presidential campaign to be derailed by the membership of Mar-a-Lago.

Biden will not be on the ticket; he was set-up to fail by agreeing to the early debate. Members will be advised on who is considered the strongest candidate to contest the election.

Who would step in

[Anonymous]

Atlanta Journal Constitution editorial board recommending Pres. Biden retire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people say Michelle Obama might step in but they never say Jill Biden?

I mean, Michelle Obama never ran a country for 3.5 years.

Jill Biden is the experienced one. Is she being passed over for some kind of DEI reason?

Jill can’t even control the family dog

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Atlanta Journal Constitution editorial board recommending Pres. Biden retire.

Soon they all will. That's why the debate was used. Press can appear principled as they participate in the effort to remove Biden from the ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get out until there is an agreement with Harris. The party cannot leave the first women of color VP dumped in the curb like yesterdays trash. She needs to agree to a graceful exit in order for Biden to step aside. He’s probably already had the conversation that he can’t step aside to let her run because she has a worse shot than he does. At least before the debate that was true, not sure where we are now but I suspect the same place.

This is an angle that I had not thought of. Perhaps Harris has made it clear that she wants the spot so Biden feels like he needs to stay in.

[Anonymous]

Have a primary election?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Atlanta Journal Constitution editorial board recommending Pres. Biden retire.

They recommended Biden not run for re-election; they did not call for him to retire/resign. AJC isn't calling for Biden to retire/resign because that would lead to President Harris which would complicate Dem plans to anoint another candidate as nominee.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if media and everyone but the Bidens and Harris are in it together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get out until there is an agreement with Harris. The party cannot leave the first women of color VP dumped in the curb like yesterdays trash. She needs to agree to a graceful exit in order for Biden to step aside. He’s probably already had the conversation that he can’t step aside to let her run because she has a worse shot than he does. At least before the debate that was true, not sure where we are now but I suspect the same place.

I voted for Biden as a transitional president with the understanding that he would promote Harris next. I know so many are saying people do te like her bit is that really true? If so I am so disillusioned with the D party.

[Anonymous]

I don’t like that this thread mostly blames Jill and Kamala. The ego of Biden, Pelosi and even rbg that in their old age they are irreplacable is dangerous. I’d vote for lots of people over trump. If Biden runs, I’m conflicted.

[Anonymous]

No one really knows. I mean, Jill is going with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get out until there is an agreement with Harris. The party cannot leave the first women of color VP dumped in the curb like yesterdays trash. She needs to agree to a graceful exit in order for Biden to step aside. He’s probably already had the conversation that he can’t step aside to let her run because she has a worse shot than he does. At least before the debate that was true, not sure where we are now but I suspect the same place.

This is an angle that I had not thought of. Perhaps Harris has made it clear that she wants the spot so Biden feels like he needs to stay in.

Biden isn't feeling/thinking about the nomination; he's mentally gone. The question is what his handlers think. They made that perfectly clear by setting him up with the debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get out until there is an agreement with Harris. The party cannot leave the first women of color VP dumped in the curb like yesterdays trash. She needs to agree to a graceful exit in order for Biden to step aside. He’s probably already had the conversation that he can’t step aside to let her run because she has a worse shot than he does. At least before the debate that was true, not sure where we are now but I suspect the same place.

I voted for Biden as a transitional president with the understanding that he would promote Harris next. I know so many are saying people do te like her bit is that really true? If so I am so disillusioned with the D party.

Don't care. Shut up and vote D.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get out until there is an agreement with Harris. The party cannot leave the first women of color VP dumped in the curb like yesterdays trash. She needs to agree to a graceful exit in order for Biden to step aside. He’s probably already had the conversation that he can’t step aside to let her run because she has a worse shot than he does. At least before the debate that was true, not sure where we are now but I suspect the same place.

I voted for Biden as a transitional president with the understanding that he would promote Harris next. I know so many are saying people do te like her bit is that really true? If so I am so disillusioned with the D party.

Don't care. Shut up and vote D.

This is what sinks the ship.

I read today that DNC is reaching out to swing state voters and listening to big donors. Honestly, eff them. If they don’t care about people in all states and regular donors, that’s their problem. Not the voters’. If that means Trump wins the election, that’s squarely on Biden and the DNC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people say Michelle Obama might step in but they never say Jill Biden?

I mean, Michelle Obama never ran a country for 3.5 years.

Jill Biden is the experienced one. Is she being passed over for some kind of DEI reason?

lol!