Ed1 prelaw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no right choice. She can major in anything from English to Engineering and go to Law School. I went to U of Penn Law School and members of my class came from all over and majored in everything.

Yes. I remember at my law school orientation they went over how many states and countries we were from, and named all of our undergrad majors, to show us what a diverse class we were with regard to geographic background and majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does a 17 year old know that they want to do big law? That's not at all like "everyone else." Especially not at Yale -- Harvard would be a better choice. But they are thinking way too far ahead.

Assuming the cost is the same at those three schools, they should apply where they think is the best fit, take a variety of classes in interesting subjects, decide based on that what to major in (since pre law isn't a major), go to law school (if that's still what they want to do after college -- be open to being exposed to new ideas!) and then after the first year of law school consider what kind of law they want to practice and what work life balance they want.

They don't. Their momma or daddy read about "Big Law" on here. There is more talk about getting work in Big Law on DCUM than there was at my T1 law school during interview season, lol.

Well the kids also use reddit chronically and that's a cesspool of "TECH ONLY, LAW SCHOOL IS USELESS UNLESS BIG LAW, CIVIL ENGINEERS ARE POOR" bs. You can see similar threads come up on R/ApplyingToCollege

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:... She'd apply to Harvard if she wasn't stubborn and didn't "hate the campus"

You're underestimating her and/or there's dumbing down of her reasoning going on between her and you and/or between you and this board. Her three ED finalists actually make a lot of sense in some very nuanced ways--and Harvard doesn't fit in that group.

I don't want my daughter ruining her talent at a no-name college with community-college levels of ambitious students. She should be striving to be around the best and most competitive if that's the type of industry she is looking for.

I really hope you're a troll.

It’s definitely a troll.

[Anonymous]

It's ED. applicants should only apply ED if the school is far and away their first choice. Based on what OP has said, that would be CMC. That's the answer.

CMC may not be a direct pipeline to law school but it is a pretty good pipeline to lucrative jobs you can do right out of undergrad, like consulting. She may want to do that for a few years before law school anyway.

Go CMC!

[Anonymous]

OP, if you think undergrad institution plays a significant role in law school admission, you are not informed on the process.

Start with college GPA and LSAT. Maybe work experience after law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you think undergrad institution plays a significant role in law school admission, you are not informed on the process.

Start with college GPA and LSAT. Maybe work experience after law school.

Yet this post sadly has many people responding about how certain schools are the place to go to for law school. People mix up a school having a lot of students going to law school with that being a better school to be pre-law, when it really doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's ED. applicants should only apply ED if the school is far and away their first choice. Based on what OP has said, that would be CMC. That's the answer.

CMC may not be a direct pipeline to law school but it is a pretty good pipeline to lucrative jobs you can do right out of undergrad, like consulting. She may want to do that for a few years before law school anyway.

Go CMC!

Even in the linked grad school feeders, cmc is a pretty substantial “pipeline” to law school. Most top schools are

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you think undergrad institution plays a significant role in law school admission, you are not informed on the process.

Start with college GPA and LSAT. Maybe work experience after law school.

Yet this post sadly has many people responding about how certain schools are the place to go to for law school. People mix up a school having a lot of students going to law school with that being a better school to be pre-law, when it really doesn’t matter.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?

T14 for BigLaw. Don't need any of the above for undergrad. The University of Kansas will do for undergrad. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most kids going into top law schools are not going straight from college to law school anymore. They work a few years between schooling. This has become common at my biglaw firm and I also see it on my T10 alma mater. Any of those 3 schools will prepare her as long as she majors in something that requires critical thinking and writing skills.

This!! 💯
Biglaw partner here…
Usually seeing 2 to 3 years of work experience before going back to law school. And the law school tend to really look upon that experience favorably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's ED. applicants should only apply ED if the school is far and away their first choice. Based on what OP has said, that would be CMC. That's the answer.

CMC may not be a direct pipeline to law school but it is a pretty good pipeline to lucrative jobs you can do right out of undergrad, like consulting. She may want to do that for a few years before law school anyway.

Go CMC!

Agree. Especially if you want to do transactional law it’s a great pipeline to places like KKR and then you can go back to law school after three years, but you probably won’t want to because you’ll have access to an entirely more lucrative pipeline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?

T14 for BigLaw. Don't need any of the above for undergrad. The University of Kansas will do for undergrad. Seriously.

The easiest way to get into Yale or Harvard or Stanford or UChicago law school is to graduate at the very top of your undergrad class. I mean the very top of your class. It’s far easier to do that at some random state Flagship than it is at another Ivy League school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Steer her as well as you can towards Dartmouth. Small colleges like Claremont Mckenna and Amherst are traps for students who can't get into real universities and struggle with the real world. If she can't learn without a professor spoon feeding her everything, she'll fail in life.

I agree with Dartmouth - but give me a break on the bold.

I mostly agree with Dartmouth because the other two are so tiny and even with ED, there are just so few spots. I'm sure she'd be fine if she did great at any of these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Steer her as well as you can towards Dartmouth. Small colleges like Claremont Mckenna and Amherst are traps for students who can't get into real universities and struggle with the real world. If she can't learn without a professor spoon feeding her everything, she'll fail in life.

I agree with Dartmouth - but give me a break on the bold.

I mostly agree with Dartmouth because the other two are so tiny and even with ED, there are just so few spots. I'm sure she'd be fine if she did great at any of these schools.

And even dartmouth is miniscule with 1500 per class. She definitely did the research and enjoys the smaller, "bro"ey type of schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?

This has to be a joke. Aren't you embarrassed to have a kid aspiring to Biglaw? No, not everyone does. columbia law grad here.