Merit scholarship for UMD???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

Have him retake calculus this summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS GPA 3.86 unweighted, 4.76 weighted, SAT 1530. He might retake SAT. Interested in the Engineering school.
Can he get any money from UMD? We live in MD.

With an UW gpa of 3.86, your DS may struggle to get into engineering at UMD. It is a very competitive program. Will get no merit.

Do you actually know those who didn’t get with similar stats? Because when I am looking at the scattergram for his school he looks safe. I am aware that UMD is very competitive, but it appears that he falls within green. I am assuming that some of those kids went to the Engineering school.

DP. I do. Each year gets harder. I don't think scattergram has 24 data yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

No one can tell you this. My kid got waitlisted at a number of schools in a see of green on naviance scattergrams. Was never clear to me how far back that data goes but I believe it includes data before test optional. I’d say he’s likely to be admitted but definitely not a sure thing.

I found out that at my kid's MCPS school, some Naviance data was over 10 years old. Really not helpful! Ask counseling office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

That's a lesson on hyperacceleration for those that follow. I'm sorry the you weren't able to make the needed adjustment after first semester.

It's a shame that the school allowed that to happen, and didn't transfer your kid to Calc AB. There is no good reason to keep a kid in BC with a B grade, when AB is an option.

He had A in calc AB the previous year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

Basically, engineering is an extremely competitive major at UMD, which is known for engineering and cs. SAT and GPA won't be the issue. It's the C in calculus BC. So realistically, engineering is not happening unless there's some super hook. And forget about merit scholarships for that major with a C in calculus.

[Anonymous]

But taken in junior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS GPA 3.86 unweighted, 4.76 weighted, SAT 1530. He might retake SAT. Interested in the Engineering school.
Can he get any money from UMD? We live in MD.

With an UW gpa of 3.86, your DS may struggle to get into engineering at UMD. It is a very competitive program. Will get no merit.

Do you actually know those who didn’t get with similar stats? Because when I am looking at the scattergram for his school he looks safe. I am aware that UMD is very competitive, but it appears that he falls within green. I am assuming that some of those kids went to the Engineering school.

DP. I do. Each year gets harder. I don't think scattergram has 24 data yet.

I am looking at it. It’s last four years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS GPA 3.86 unweighted, 4.76 weighted, SAT 1530. He might retake SAT. Interested in the Engineering school.
Can he get any money from UMD? We live in MD.

Last year my kid from NOVA received $10k/yr ($46k COA) and Honors. CS 3.98UW/1560

UMD is $32K/yr CoA in state to start, before ant scholarships.

Yes

[Anonymous]

If admitted to UMD but not the engineering LEP, he can transfer into engineering with a 3.0. They will also let him take all the required freshman year courses, so he won’t be behind.

[Anonymous]

Surprised to hear of merit split over two years.

All of my kid!s merit offers (not U of MD) were for each of all 4 years (assuming she kept her grades up).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised to hear of merit split over two years.

All of my kid!s merit offers (not U of MD) were for each of all 4 years (assuming she kept her grades up).

Presidential scholarships, which are up to $5k in-state or $17.5k OOS, are for four years. Dean’s (for in-state only) are for one year of $1.5k or two years at $4.5k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS GPA 3.86 unweighted, 4.76 weighted, SAT 1530. He might retake SAT. Interested in the Engineering school.
Can he get any money from UMD? We live in MD.

Do you actually know those who didn’t get with similar stats? Because when I am looking at the scattergram for his school he looks safe. I am aware that UMD is very competitive, but it appears that he falls within green. I am assuming that some of those kids went to the Engineering school.

I’m pretty sure that some of the green on Naviance is students who were accepted to Freshman Connection (spring start)— I don’t think Naviance differentiates? My DS with similar stats was accepted for spring. He had a C on his transcript that I think impacted his application. He had been applying for a limited major so did not end up choosing UMD since the spring start essentially ruled that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

Have him retake calculus this summer.

+100, definitely retake Calculus

Your biggest problem is not merit from UMD (although that is always nice to get)
Your problem is that with that level of mastery of calculus, he has a high chance of dropping out from the program altogether. Calculus is the base, the foundation of much of the subsequent learning. If he got a mercy C for it in HS, he may not be able to keep up with subsequent coursework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

That's a lesson on hyperacceleration for those that follow. I'm sorry the you weren't able to make the needed adjustment after first semester.

It's a shame that the school allowed that to happen, and didn't transfer your kid to Calc AB. There is no good reason to keep a kid in BC with a B grade, when AB is an option.

He had A in calc AB the previous year.

I think the hang up for your kid will be getting the low grade even after taking Calc AB. Most high stats kids that I know go from pre-calculus to Calculus BC. The overall rigor of other courses will also matter, plus ECs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: I got the consensus on the Merit scholarship. 😕
My DC is not highly motivated in improving his SAT, even though it’s the only thing he can do to move the needle. He got a B and a C taking calc BC as a junior.
I still don’t understand what GPA kid has to have to get into Engineering. Does it have to be 3.9 and above?
Just to clarify not CS.

That's a lesson on hyperacceleration for those that follow. I'm sorry the you weren't able to make the needed adjustment after first semester.

It's a shame that the school allowed that to happen, and didn't transfer your kid to Calc AB. There is no good reason to keep a kid in BC with a B grade, when AB is an option.

He had A in calc AB the previous year.

I think the hang up for your kid will be getting the low grade even after taking Calc AB. Most high stats kids that I know go from pre-calculus to Calculus BC. The overall rigor of other courses will also matter, plus ECs.

You may know a lot of kids, but in our very big HS was only one kid that did that and got C in it. (Got to Engineering UMD too).
We checked and were told not to skip Calc AB.