MCPS principal allegedly assaulted student at Ritchie Park

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's got a nasty temper. Used to work with him and witnessed him grab kids by their clothes and scream in kids faces multiple times. He's been investigated for something similar in a past school, but managed to skirt by any charges. He's also a super creep and is really inappropriate with female teachers- extra long hugs and such. They have the assault on video, so there is no question he stomped on the kids foot. No child deserves that treatment.

Was stomping on the foot an accident though? Former MCPS teacher here and kids have accidentally stepped on my foot and I've accidentally stepped on theirs as well. No one ever called the police because of it...

Also, I've worked with him in another school and do not see him as a "super creep" from my perspective as a woman, but maybe we've had different experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's got a nasty temper. Used to work with him and witnessed him grab kids by their clothes and scream in kids faces multiple times. He's been investigated for something similar in a past school, but managed to skirt by any charges. He's also a super creep and is really inappropriate with female teachers- extra long hugs and such. They have the assault on video, so there is no question he stomped on the kids foot. No child deserves that treatment.

Was stomping on the foot an accident though? Former MCPS teacher here and kids have accidentally stepped on my foot and I've accidentally stepped on theirs as well. No one ever called the police because of it...

Also, I've worked with him in another school and do not see him as a "super creep" from my perspective as a woman, but maybe we've had different experiences.

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's got a nasty temper. Used to work with him and witnessed him grab kids by their clothes and scream in kids faces multiple times. He's been investigated for something similar in a past school, but managed to skirt by any charges. He's also a super creep and is really inappropriate with female teachers- extra long hugs and such. They have the assault on video, so there is no question he stomped on the kids foot. No child deserves that treatment.

Was stomping on the foot an accident though? Former MCPS teacher here and kids have accidentally stepped on my foot and I've accidentally stepped on theirs as well. No one ever called the police because of it...

Also, I've worked with him in another school and do not see him as a "super creep" from my perspective as a woman, but maybe we've had different experiences.

Unbiased individuals usually don't describe accidentally stepping on someone's foot as "stomping" on it.

Perhaps it would be in everyone's interest to release the video footage.

[Anonymous]

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.
The police detective watched the video and decided to charge him with second-degree assault.

You can read the charging document here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPLVDkbWYAA-PG8?format=jpg&name=900x900

The police did not think it was an accident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.

The AP called the police because her husband is the school resource officer for the school. She should have followed protocol and reported it to CPS instead of calling her husband.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.

The AP called the police because her husband is the school resource officer for the school. She should have followed protocol and reported it to CPS instead of calling her husband.

Exactly this. It's not MCPS protocol to immediately call the police for something like this. This sounds like it was a personal vendetta against him. She needs to be investigated as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principals' union is completely separate from the teachers' union. MCAAP is the union for admin, MCEA is teachers.

We have had a teacher in admin leave for months. She was accused of "something" and can't be in contact with anyone from school until the investigation is complete. Allegedly there are precious few people to investigate each of these accusations at any given time. For what it's worth, this particular teacher has a spotless track record and there are several adults who work in the classroom together. I would be surprised if she was guilty of whatever she's been accused of. But anyway, the investigations take forever.

In Winter's case, the evidence was on video, and the investigation was conducted by the POLICE. Paying full salary for 4 months before charging and who knows how many more months after is the WORST.

Exactly. You don’t need an investigation when there’s video. Mcps is so rotten at its core that someone in co stalled and covered for this criminal so he could collect a check and now they want to lay off teachers because there’s no money. It’s disgusting. I doubt this is the first time he did something like this. He just got caught this time.

The POLICE took all this time to investigate for criminal charges. As an employee matter, MCPS investigates in relation to the employee's job. It's likely once the matter was handed over to the police, MCPS stopped any of their own investigations and waited until the police reported their findings. He's going to be fired, but I don't think it's the worst that a person accused is placed on paid leave until there is some conclusive finding. We don't know how clear the video is or what it showed. I don't think people realize how often school employees are falsely accused of wrong-doing against students. It's frustrating when the case involves a person who did actually do something terrible, as this situation seems to be, but the protections are needed for those that haven't done anything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principals' union is completely separate from the teachers' union. MCAAP is the union for admin, MCEA is teachers.

We have had a teacher in admin leave for months. She was accused of "something" and can't be in contact with anyone from school until the investigation is complete. Allegedly there are precious few people to investigate each of these accusations at any given time. For what it's worth, this particular teacher has a spotless track record and there are several adults who work in the classroom together. I would be surprised if she was guilty of whatever she's been accused of. But anyway, the investigations take forever.

In Winter's case, the evidence was on video, and the investigation was conducted by the POLICE. Paying full salary for 4 months before charging and who knows how many more months after is the WORST.

Exactly. You don’t need an investigation when there’s video. Mcps is so rotten at its core that someone in co stalled and covered for this criminal so he could collect a check and now they want to lay off teachers because there’s no money. It’s disgusting. I doubt this is the first time he did something like this. He just got caught this time.

The POLICE took all this time to investigate for criminal charges. As an employee matter, MCPS investigates in relation to the employee's job. It's likely once the matter was handed over to the police, MCPS stopped any of their own investigations and waited until the police reported their findings. He's going to be fired, but I don't think it's the worst that a person accused is placed on paid leave until there is some conclusive finding. We don't know how clear the video is or what it showed. I don't think people realize how often school employees are falsely accused of wrong-doing against students. It's frustrating when the case involves a person who did actually do something terrible, as this situation seems to be, but the protections are needed for those that haven't done anything wrong.

Then being found guilty should result in repayment of the money made while waiting for trial and investigation

[Anonymous]

“Neither of us were there..” correct! But you know what was there- a surveillance camera. Which, along with witnesses, provided enough evidence for the Montgomery County DA to charge this principal with an assault on a child. No matter who called police first. Sometimes people you know and work for do awful things. It’s not too late to face facts and stop caping for this individual, despite your personal experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principals' union is completely separate from the teachers' union. MCAAP is the union for admin, MCEA is teachers.

We have had a teacher in admin leave for months. She was accused of "something" and can't be in contact with anyone from school until the investigation is complete. Allegedly there are precious few people to investigate each of these accusations at any given time. For what it's worth, this particular teacher has a spotless track record and there are several adults who work in the classroom together. I would be surprised if she was guilty of whatever she's been accused of. But anyway, the investigations take forever.

In Winter's case, the evidence was on video, and the investigation was conducted by the POLICE. Paying full salary for 4 months before charging and who knows how many more months after is the WORST.

Exactly. You don’t need an investigation when there’s video. Mcps is so rotten at its core that someone in co stalled and covered for this criminal so he could collect a check and now they want to lay off teachers because there’s no money. It’s disgusting. I doubt this is the first time he did something like this. He just got caught this time.

The POLICE took all this time to investigate for criminal charges. As an employee matter, MCPS investigates in relation to the employee's job. It's likely once the matter was handed over to the police, MCPS stopped any of their own investigations and waited until the police reported their findings. He's going to be fired, but I don't think it's the worst that a person accused is placed on paid leave until there is some conclusive finding. We don't know how clear the video is or what it showed. I don't think people realize how often school employees are falsely accused of wrong-doing against students. It's frustrating when the case involves a person who did actually do something terrible, as this situation seems to be, but the protections are needed for those that haven't done anything wrong.

Then being found guilty should result in repayment of the money made while waiting for trial and investigation

Like John Vigna? On the payroll a year after his arrest and all through his trial? He was probably still on the payroll while in prison. MCPS administrators loved him, little girls always lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Neither of us were there..” correct! But you know what was there- a surveillance camera. Which, along with witnesses, provided enough evidence for the Montgomery County DA to charge this principal with an assault on a child. No matter who called police first. Sometimes people you know and work for do awful things. It’s not too late to face facts and stop caping for this individual, despite your personal experience.

Lol, from your posts on various social media platforms, I know exactly who you are. It's common knowledge that you have a personal issue with him. Get a grip and go spend time with your family lmao

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are either obtuse or an abuser apologist. Either way, go away.

I am neither. Do you know him or have you worked with him personally? If so, what gives you the right to think you speak for all of us? You don't. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. Neither of us were there. I do know that calling the police for stepping on someone's foot is extreme. When was the last time you called the police for that? I'll wait.

The AP called the police because her husband is the school resource officer for the school. She should have followed protocol and reported it to CPS instead of calling her husband.

Good idea. Cover-ups are always easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This does not surprise me. He had a poor track record at Barnsley but a lot of it didn’t come to light. Makes sense as to why the woman who replaced him is also awful.

Winter was way better than the woman who replaced him. She has been terrible for the school.

Couldn’t agree more. Terrible for the school, the parents, and most importantly the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This does not surprise me. He had a poor track record at Barnsley but a lot of it didn’t come to light. Makes sense as to why the woman who replaced him is also awful.

Winter was way better than the woman who replaced him. She has been terrible for the school.

How so?

Not this PP but I am a PP from upthread. Long story short: we had to retain an attorney after she/counseling/other staff violated many educational laws regarding our then 5 year old, who is now happy and thriving elsewhere (with an IEP that we fought tooth and nail for). I have spoken at length with at least a half dozen other families from Barnsley whose kids have been adversely affected by her. She is an awful person with zero compassion and some sort of warped vendetta against hyperactive boys in particular. She continues to do active, daily harm. Many families are too scared, tired, poor, or intimidated to fight back. We didn’t file suit but we took other measures that should have years of lasting effects, one of which will hopefully be getting her out of any principal’s job.