VA in-state: Anyone get in at Michigan but not UVA?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


If it expanded, it would get watered down.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


if your kid doesn't want to go to W&M or Tech, or any of the other great state schools we have here, how is that VA failing us? That's your kids choice.


Yes, no need to expand. There are plenty of 2nd tier choices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid was waitlisted at Michigan and rejected at UVA. Because she was waitlisted it makes me think there is a possibility. Is it worth waiting to see if she gets accepted in April, or should we just move forward with acceptances already received?


What are your kids stats? UMich is likely a no.
Anonymous
FWIW, my DC's Big 3 counselor said that tons of OOS applicants get deferred from Michigan initially (potentially because the admissions team hasn't gotten to the application yet) and then get in. This happened to my older DC and lots of other kids at the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here - I think she just wants to make a decision to be done with it.


She doesn’t need to make a decision until May 1st! Tell her to chill.
Anonymous
I think a rejection from UVA in state is probably indicative of a rejection from Michigan. Sorry OP. If WL by UVA, I think your DC would still be in the game at Michigan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to increase instate enrollment. It’s too small of a flagship to accommodate a state of our size. It should be like UNC and have an 85% instate enrollment. Even with W&M, not enough top students in Virginia are being well served.


No it's a good balance to bring OOS kids and hope they will stay. But it allows, other next tier in state schools like VCU, JMU, GMU to grow.
Anonymous
It is a 1,000 times easier getting into Michigan as a Michigan resident than into Virginia as a Virginian resident. Michigan is massive and so much less selective.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


if your kid doesn't want to go to W&M or Tech, or any of the other great state schools we have here, how is that VA failing us? That's your kids choice.


We are fortunate that Virginia offers lots of great choices; it doesn't mean "top students" (however that may be defined) are entitled to admission to the in-state school of their choice.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to increase instate enrollment. It’s too small of a flagship to accommodate a state of our size. It should be like UNC and have an 85% instate enrollment. Even with W&M, not enough top students in Virginia are being well served.


No it's a good balance to bring OOS kids and hope they will stay. But it allows, other next tier in state schools like VCU, JMU, GMU to grow.


+1 It’s also important to not that UVA takes very little state money. I believe it’s under 10% now, they like the autonomy to make their own decisions. Additionally, it has allowed the state to spend money on expanding other state schools for the better.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to increase instate enrollment. It’s too small of a flagship to accommodate a state of our size. It should be like UNC and have an 85% instate enrollment. Even with W&M, not enough top students in Virginia are being well served.


No it's a good balance to bring OOS kids and hope they will stay. But it allows, other next tier in state schools like VCU, JMU, GMU to grow.


+1 It’s also important to not that UVA takes very little state money. I believe it’s under 10% now, they like the autonomy to make their own decisions. Additionally, it has allowed the state to spend money on expanding other state schools for the better.



This. UNC is fully state supported. In state tuition is $9k vs. $20k at UVA.

I get though.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


if your kid doesn't want to go to W&M or Tech, or any of the other great state schools we have here, how is that VA failing us? That's your kids choice.


Because the other two schools are not in the same tier as UVA. All the other top tier flagships in this country enroll enough of their top instate students.


What's your definition of "enough"? I certainly hear lots of complaining from friends/family that their great HS student can't get into in-state options like UMD, UNC, Berkeley or UCLA.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


if your kid doesn't want to go to W&M or Tech, or any of the other great state schools we have here, how is that VA failing us? That's your kids choice.


Because the other two schools are not in the same tier as UVA. All the other top tier flagships in this country enroll enough of their top instate students.


What's your definition of "enough"? I certainly hear lots of complaining from friends/family that their great HS student can't get into in-state options like UMD, UNC, Berkeley or UCLA.


That means those HS students are not great enough.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to increase instate enrollment. It’s too small of a flagship to accommodate a state of our size. It should be like UNC and have an 85% instate enrollment. Even with W&M, not enough top students in Virginia are being well served.


No it's a good balance to bring OOS kids and hope they will stay. But it allows, other next tier in state schools like VCU, JMU, GMU to grow.


+1 It’s also important to not that UVA takes very little state money. I believe it’s under 10% now, they like the autonomy to make their own decisions. Additionally, it has allowed the state to spend money on expanding other state schools for the better.



This. UNC is fully state supported. In state tuition is $9k vs. $20k at UVA.

I get though.


UNC is not fully state supported. Not even close. it's only about 10% at best.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA needs to figure out how to expand so our top students can stay in state. No, my high stats kid doesn’t want to go to W&M or VT. Virginia is failing the taxpayers.


if your kid doesn't want to go to W&M or Tech, or any of the other great state schools we have here, how is that VA failing us? That's your kids choice.


Because the other two schools are not in the same tier as UVA. All the other top tier flagships in this country enroll enough of their top instate students.


So because of the vagaries of USNWR rankings, schools should expand (or perhaps shrink) to accommodate your expectations for in-state college options?
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