Which club is not a mess?

[Anonymous]

We’re having a great experience with Liverpool FC. Such a good local club. Kept all of its excellent coaches when they took on the Liverpool name, coaches are nurturing but bring out the best in kids, they seem organized and communicate clearly. Zero toxic coach vibe, zero contempt for parents I’ve seen in other places. It’s not perfect but it’s been good so far!

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

+100

It is meant to filter up like that. Cream rises to the top.


Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

+100

It is meant to filter up like that. Cream rises to the top

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Then why have tryouts in the first place ? I guess kids from other clubs should be made aware not to even bother coming out.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Very strong parent politics there.

No kidding, politics is the only explanation. it's almost impossible to get a Red player onto the academy team, although the Red player is and has been better than half of the Academy team. It is definitely a glass ceiling, so the frustrated player changes clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Very strong parent politics there.

No kidding, politics is the only explanation. it's almost impossible to get a Red player onto the academy team, although the Red player is and has been better than half of the Academy team. It is definitely a glass ceiling, so the frustrated player changes clubs.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Very strong parent politics there.

No kidding, politics is the only explanation. it's almost impossible to get a Red player onto the academy team, although the Red player is and has been better than half of the Academy team. It is definitely a glass ceiling, so the frustrated player changes clubs.

Maybe to u they are but not to the coaches.

[Anonymous]

Arlington parents here. Sure there are politics but that’s every club and every team has some. More or less. I’ve never seen kids who are outright BETTER than the academy players that haven’t been moving up.

I’ve seen kids who are about the same level as academy players didn’t get move up a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any chaos at Arlington or Bethesda? Seems like business as usual at both

Said if from the beginning Arlington is the place to be. You will never have to go to nationals, big money save, and time suck avoided, summer vacay yas!!

You will never get cut, cause Arlington soccer moms (roar)

And free kits from Amazon!! and the most important guaranteed walk-on roster spot at Bowdoin or Williams. IG here I come snap snap

or

Maximize your youth soccer ability and body, sign NILs and Go Pro with SYC

or

Make collateral payments to a therapist and ECNL league dues to Bethesda and then probably play professionally if that is your will cause you survived youth soccer and can probably play!

or

Play with your friends at your local EDP club and be the girl everyone wants on their coed soccer team as an adult

😂🤣🤣 you all are hilarious

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

+100

It is meant to filter up like that. Cream rises to the top

There are many players playing on EDP teams and similar leagues that can easily play in ECNL and MLS Next.
People get too caught up with group labels and badges versus the realities of individual players.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

+100

It is meant to filter up like that. Cream rises to the top

There are many players playing on EDP teams and similar leagues that can easily play in ECNL and MLS Next.
People get too caught up with group labels and badges versus the realities of individual players.

So many. DS came from an EDP club and tried out/practiced with a few MLSNext clubs. Offered a spot on all of them and is a starter on the team he selected.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Very strong parent politics there.

Serious question, what does the parent politics look like? I have a 10u player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much chaos right now with all these clubs. Seems every club is getting bashed left and right. Are there any top level clubs that actually have their act together?

Bunion FC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any chaos at Arlington or Bethesda? Seems like business as usual at both

Said if from the beginning Arlington is the place to be. You will never have to go to nationals, big money save, and time suck avoided, summer vacay yas!!

You will never get cut, cause Arlington soccer moms (roar)

And free kits from Amazon!! and the most important guaranteed walk-on roster spot at Bowdoin or Williams. IG here I come snap snap

or

Maximize your youth soccer ability and body, sign NILs and Go Pro with SYC

or

Make collateral payments to a therapist and ECNL league dues to Bethesda and then probably play professionally if that is your will cause you survived youth soccer and can probably play!

or

Play with your friends at your local EDP club and be the girl everyone wants on their coed soccer team as an adult

why i love this board.... ROFLMAO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has no drama because they’re not good on the girls side other than the 2011 team. And they don’t have a great college recruiting record. So if your DD doesn’t want drama, but also doesn’t want to be the best or play college soccer, then go to Arlington. Unless your DD thinks they can break it into the 2011 team.

2011

They are always strong at the younger ages and by high school they start dropping in rankings. That's always been Arlington.

People love to hate that 2011 Arlington and projecting they will fail in the future. They are 12 years old kids. Maybe they will or maybe they won’t. We played against them and parents can be very annoying on the sideline but they have a couple of key players that holding the team together that are elite players. Their CB is one of them as when she wasn’t in, they lost to Charlotte a while ago and when they played them again recently, they beat Charlotte 3-0. Their 2 strikers are also very good and gritty.

So unless u see these kids leaving to other clubs, I think the team will continue to do well in this region. The real test is when they go to the playoff. How much these handful of kids will be able to carry the team then if their midfielders can’t hold the ball.