Which club is not a mess?

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has no drama because they’re not good on the girls side other than the 2011 team. And they don’t have a great college recruiting record. So if your DD doesn’t want drama, but also doesn’t want to be the best or play college soccer, then go to Arlington. Unless your DD thinks they can break it into the 2011 team.

2011

They are always strong at the younger ages and by high school they start dropping in rankings. That's always been Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Very strong parent politics there.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

At the HS ages, you should have the top players--no matter within or outside. By HS, kids SHOULD be fighting for their team spot every.single.day. That's how it works.

U7-U13/14--yes develop. By U15/16+ you need the best players period and the best players playing against one another. Loyalty doesn't exist in the sporting world. Only in the 'every kid gets a trophy' A-town world.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

At the HS ages, you should have the top players--no matter within or outside. By HS, kids SHOULD be fighting for their team spot every.single.day. That's how it works.

U7-U13/14--yes develop. By U15/16+ you need the best players period and the best players playing against one another. Loyalty doesn't exist in the sporting world. Only in the 'every kid gets a trophy' A-town world.

That's precisely why Arlington falls consistently as the age groups get older. They are unwilling to move anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

If you are talking any age group older than U15--this is the most ridiculous policy. By that age, you want the best teams and the best players and every kid is fighting for their spot, their starting position, etc., from there on out. Kids don't develop or get better without that incentive. You just are coddling a bunch of teenagers past their peak developmental years doing nobody a favor.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

It doesn’t sound like development, it sounds more like stealing players from other clubs, and misplacing the age team players by moving up younger ones taking spots that align to the year of college commitment. Why the younger players if they are that good can’t help their own age? I understand moving one or two but half of the team?

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

ECNL/MLSnext/GA should be cutting home grown players as other players leave clubs that top out at EDP. That's the whole point of having clubs in leagues that play at different levels. If a club is unwilling to take a look at a kid who comes from CYA or Gunston or Herndon then they aren't maximizing the talent on their team

100% I raised my own kids to know the reason they aren't playing or starting or got cut--is when Jimmy is better than you. If you want to play that position--you need to show you are better than Jimmy.

Even my own kids at an early age could understand and accept that. They have been cut and they have come back and started--many times over and over again in the course of the 9-10 years they have been playing.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

It doesn’t sound like development, it sounds more like stealing players from other clubs, and misplacing the age team players by moving up younger ones taking spots that align to the year of college commitment. Why the younger players if they are that good can’t help their own age? I understand moving one or two but half of the team?

Hello--again, a teenager will get cut if there is a better teenager. In a club with 6 age groups--if a kid isn't succeeding on the A team and there are better kids at that point in time--the kid moves down to his appropriate level--when he physically matures or technically gets better---he comes back up. That is what development is. It isn't keeping all the kids just because at ag 8 they started on the A team. Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:There's no track record of Arlington keeping their teams together either. Right now their 2011's are the talk of the town for their respective age group. Same probably was said about another, I think people before said they had a talented 08 group years ago, maybe it was another age. Unlikely they keep that team intact for years.

08s never lost players.

Well that's not good either if that's the team that people have said was a good one before a few years ago around U13. They're not very strong now.

They never cut and they don't develop. This is why by age 16, their teams aren't very good.

Their ECNL rosters NEVER change. At most 1-2 kids every few years.

Developing from within is good. We want that. Oh, unless the team becomes less competitive because all the other clubs are recruiting new players every year. Then we should start cutting and recruiting, too. Can't beat them so join them. No, we develop! We'll turn away the better playres who show up at ID sessions because we are loyal and develop our own players.

Duh. If you are developing from within the IDENTICAL/SAME players would not always be on the top team. Kids don't ALL develop in that manner. A club (I've been at one) that truly is developmental--has a lot of movement over the years and a lot of playing up/down, bio-banding, etc.

A club that has 100 kids in an age group and the same 10 are on a team from U8-U18 is not developmental. Kids CHANGE so much in that time.

It doesn’t sound like development, it sounds more like stealing players from other clubs, and misplacing the age team players by moving up younger ones taking spots that align to the year of college commitment. Why the younger players if they are that good can’t help their own age? I understand moving one or two but half of the team?

Hello--again, a teenager will get cut if there is a better teenager. In a club with 6 age groups--if a kid isn't succeeding on the A team and there are better kids at that point in time--the kid moves down to his appropriate level--when he physically matures or technically gets better---he comes back up. That is what development is. It isn't keeping all the kids just because at ag 8 they started on the A team. Get it?

^ meant 6 teams per age group.