Times- Best Colleges for future Leaders

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.

GU is where foreign leaders go to school. Not US leaders….

True about foreign leaders. Untrue about US

Bill Clinton, Tenet, Petraeus, Leahy, Podesta, Kelly, McAullife, Buchanan, Durbin, Murkowski, Gates, etc.

Seems like it used to be a good school.

😝

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

Anyone else surprized by Minnesota?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

Anyone else surprized by Minnesota?

Yes; Surprised by Big 10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

Anyone else surprized by Minnesota?

Yes; Surprised by Big 10

5 schools?

And as of later this year, USC (so 6 schools?)

[Anonymous]

Big 10 = CEOs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.

GU is where foreign leaders go to school. Not US leaders….

True about foreign leaders. Untrue about US

Bill Clinton, Tenet, Petraeus, Leahy, Podesta, Kelly, McAullife, Buchanan, Durbin, Murkowski, Gates, etc.

Seems like it used to be a good school.

Still is clearly.

as evidenced by PP's list of octogenarian alumni

[Anonymous]

Is it for bachelors or includes graduate degrees?

If so, are they double-counting schools?

[Anonymous]

No point adding union leadership into the mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

The lack of service academies and NESAC schools. Both of those are very over represented per capita among politicians, CEOs and academics

I wonder if they stick narrowly to the university definition and excluded service academies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

The lack of service academies and NESAC schools. Both of those are very over represented per capita among politicians, CEOs and academics

I wonder if they stick narrowly to the university definition and excluded service academies.

Click the link. There's 2 service academys, they're just not top 30

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

Anyone else surprized by Minnesota?

Other than Berkeley all of the publics are surprising

[Anonymous]

This algorithm (which I haven't studied and am not endorsing) gives Harvard a "Leadership Score" of 100. Then there's a chasm. Then Stanford at 90 and Penn at 89. The other 97 schools on the list range from 87 down to 81 (with fully 81 of the schools scoring either 82 or 81).

I'd say the list holds two surprises: 1. How far apart from all the rest Harvard stands; and 2. How tightly bunched all the rest are. The folks focused on the ordinal rankings are missing everything that potentially could matter.

[Anonymous]

No wonder the big 10 is so competitive

[Anonymous]

Some is a numbers game and odds too. You have 1,500-2,000 undergrads and them some with 30K undergrads.

[Anonymous]

Just another listing where Michigan is in the top ten. The listing is weighted for school size. Very impressive!