Times- Best Colleges for future Leaders

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Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.


DMV is in the east cost. Duke is an easy coast thing by DMV boosters. Duke's not as well known as Harvard, Stanford, or Columbia outside that region.


If not for the basketball program, Duke would be Davidson.
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Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.


GU is where foreign leaders go to school. Not US leaders….

True about foreign leaders. Untrue about US

Bill Clinton, Tenet, Petraeus, Leahy, Podesta, Kelly, McAullife, Buchanan, Durbin, Murkowski, Gates, etc.


All old. GU glory days have passed

It's because our leaders, in general, are old.

I don't know how anyone can see this list + GU's wall street and elite graduate school placements and think the school is declining... it is the opposite
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Anonymous wrote:Where is Northeastern 😂


Why are you obsessed with Northeastern

It's relatively recent that Northeastern has became semi-elite status.
Some basher often say that it was a commuter school 20-30 years ao.
So that's the explanation.

Today it's full of bright motivated independent kids. Many of them have stats for T20sih schools, so give it 10, 20, 30 more years.
It'll probably come close to BU BC Tufts level.



It probably already passed BU BC Tufts rank at the moment, maybe the best school in ME. I just watched a youtube video, one student got rejected by NEU but got accepted to MIT and Harvard. Wow. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HJLFRMys4


Probably yield protection. That student also was rejected by BU and another moderately ranked school as well as by the other 4 Ivy League schools to which she applied.


Harvard, MIT, etc. does that all the time. Rejecting higher qualified students and accept lower stat students.
Schools accept best fit students. Nothing new.
Anonymous
Hopkins??
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is Northeastern 😂


Why are you obsessed with Northeastern

It's relatively recent that Northeastern has became semi-elite status.
Some basher often say that it was a commuter school 20-30 years ao.
So that's the explanation.

Today it's full of bright motivated independent kids. Many of them have stats for T20sih schools, so give it 10, 20, 30 more years.
It'll probably come close to BU BC Tufts level.



It probably already passed BU BC Tufts rank at the moment, maybe the best school in ME. I just watched a youtube video, one student got rejected by NEU but got accepted to MIT and Harvard. Wow. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HJLFRMys4


Probably yield protection. That student also was rejected by BU and another moderately ranked school as well as by the other 4 Ivy League schools to which she applied.


Harvard, MIT, etc. does that all the time. Rejecting higher qualified students and accept lower stat students.
Schools accept best fit students. Nothing new.


Appears that you do not understand the concept of "yield protection".

Yield protection is the practice of rejecting superior, highly qualified applicants because they are likely to be accepted at, and attend, higher ranked, more prestigious schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Shocked at how high Northwestern and Michigan are.


Can someone compare these with the WSJ ROI listing?


More surprised by NYU which is often bashed.


NYU is the least surprising. The successful outcomes are rich kids who want to live in new york for 4 years.


???
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.


GU is where foreign leaders go to school. Not US leaders….


💯


Bill Clinton was both so....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hopkins??


You rang sir?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Williams doesn't make the list... Surprisingly.

LAC's have lost a lot of standing over the past 30 years. DCUM won't admit it.


The schools remain high quality even though student preferences have shifted to larger, more urban environments for college.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only surprise is ASU (not knocking it; half of my husband's family went there and they're all brilliant.) I also thought Duke would be higher (and I'm by no means a Duke fan - I am just surprised to see them just a little above ASU.) I would also have expected GU to come in at 8 or 9, ahead of Michigan and Chicago.


GU is where foreign leaders go to school. Not US leaders….

True about foreign leaders. Untrue about US

Bill Clinton, Tenet, Petraeus, Leahy, Podesta, Kelly, McAullife, Buchanan, Durbin, Murkowski, Gates, etc.


Other than Clinton, not impressive.

Btw I’m outside the DC bubble.


Clearly.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?

Anyone else surprized by Minnesota?

Other than Berkeley all of the publics are surprising


Why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?


Why did they put ranks when the scores are all the same?


Rank College Leadership score City State Notable subsidiaries
1 Harvard University 100 Cambridge MA Harvard Business School, Harvard Kennedy School, Harvard Law School, Harvard Medical School, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
2 Stanford University 90 Stanford CA Stanford University Graduate School of Business, Stanford Law School
3 University of Pennsylvania 89 Philadelphia PA ABA Stonier Graduate School of Banking, The Wharton School
4 Columbia University 87 New York NY Columbia Business School, Columbia Engineering, Columbia Law School, Columbia University Law School, Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health, Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons, Teachers College, Columbia University
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 87 Cambridge MA MIT Sloan School of Management
6 Yale University 86 New Haven CT Yale Law School, Yale School of Drama, Yale School of Management, Yale School of Medicine
7 Princeton University 86 Princeton NJ
8 Northwestern University 85 Evanston IL Kellogg School of Management, Pritzker School of Law
9 University of Michigan 85 Ann Arbor MI Stephen M. Ross School of Business, University of Michigan Law School, U-M School of Public Health
10 University of Chicago 84 Chicago IL Booth School of Business, University of Chicago Law School
11 University of California, Berkeley 84 Berkeley CA Haas School of Business
12 Georgetown University 84 Washington DC Georgetown University Law Center, McCourt School of Public Policy, Georgetown University School of Medicine
13 New York University 83 New York NY New York University School of Law, Stern School of Business
14 University of Texas at Austin 83 Austin TX McCombs School of Business, Texas Law
15 Cornell University 83 Ithaca NY Cornell Johnson Graduate School of Management, Weill Cornell Medicine
16 Dartmouth College 83 Hanover NH Geisel School of Medicine, Tuck School of Business
17 University of Virginia 83 Charlottesville VA Darden School of Business, University of Virginia School of Law, University of Virginia School of Medicine
18 Duke University 83 Durham NC Fuqua School of Business
19 Brown University 83 Providence RI
20 Arizona State University-Tempe 82 Tempe AZ Thunderbird School of Global Management, W. P. Carey School of Business
21 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 82 Chapel Hill NC Kenan-Flagler Business School
22 University of Notre Dame 82 Notre Dame IN Notre Dame Law School, Mendoza College of Business
23 Texas A&M University 82 College Station TX Mays Business School
24 Vanderbilt University 82 Nashville TN Owen Graduate School of Management, Vanderbilt University School of Medicine
25 University of Southern California (USC) 82 Los Angeles CA
26 University of Minnesota 82 Twin Cities (Minneapolis & Saint Paul) MN Carlson School of Management
27 Indiana University 82 Bloomington IN Kelley School of Business, Lilly Family School of Philanthropy, Maurer School of Law
28 Boston College 82 Chestnut Hill MA Carroll School of Management
29 University of Wisconsin-Madison 82 Madison WI Wisconsin School of Business
30 Emory University 82 Atlanta GA Goizueta Business School, Emory University School of Medicine
31 Boston University 82 Boston MA Questrom School of Business
32 Purdue University 82 West Lafayette IN
33 University of California, Los Angeles 82 Los Angeles CA
34 University of Missouri-Columbia 82 Columbia MO
35 Miami University 82 Oxford OH
36 Pennsylvania State University 82 State College PA Penn State University College of Medicine
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Emory bashers on here have some explaining to do. Wasn't there a thread saying Gatech or WashU was a better school?


Ga. Tech is better than Emory for engineering.

Engineers aren't really leaders I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:" TIME and Statista analyzed the resumés of 2,000 top leaders in the U.S.—politicians, CEOs, union leaders, Nobel winners, and more across sectors—to assemble a list of the universities and colleges where they received their degrees. The list, which is weighted for school size..."

https://time.com/collection/best-colleges-for-future-leaders/

1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. MIT
6. Yale
7. Princeton
8. Northwestern
9. Umich
10. U Chicago
11. UCB
12. Georgetown
13. NYU
14. UT-Austin
15. Cornell
16. Dartmouth
17. UVA
18. DUke
19. Brown
20. ASU- Tempe
21. UNC
22. Notre Dame
23. Texas A&M
24. Vanderbilt
25. USC
26. U Minnesota
27. Indiana
28. Boston College
29. Wisconsin Madison
30. Emory

Any Surprises?


Surprised Penn State was only #3. More CEOs than any undergrad but Stanford.

Lol u thats Upenn
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Took a quick look at methodology - just says "analyzing a diverse sample of 2,000 of the most influential leaders from various areas in U.S. society. These leaders span a broad range of industries and fields, bringing diverse experiences and expertise to their roles." Since Time picked Taylor Swift as it's person of the year, wondering what their criteria was for "most influential leaders"


You think you are being funny...but Taylor Swift was more influential than just about anyone in 2023. She was personally responsible for dramatically increasing the GDP in all the cities where she toured, had the first $1BN tour and is now the richest entertainer on the planet.

You come off as pretty much a fool.

Lol Taylor fan. Rihanna is still wealthier.
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