Semaglutide: Do the weight loss lawsuits make you second-guess, trying Semaglutide weight loss drugs?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

You are such a caring person. I’m sure you go out of the way to befriend fat people because you care SO MUCH about them and their well being. Get out of here.

You really need to back away from DCUM for a bit. You are ranting at multiple posts. I have friends and relatives of all different shapes and sizes. Never, would I ever, talk to them about their weight, or how they're handling their health. My sister was obese for quite a long time and her husband was constantly asking me to intervene. I refused. On an anonymous forum, where the question of whether these drugs or safe or not is a valid one, I will share my opinion that it concerns me that yet another drug is added to the glut of meds people are already on, when there are healthier ways. Honestly, I think it would be healthier to stay overweight. For diabetes, of course, if these drugs are saving lives, great. But for overweight, I think it's healthier just to accept who you are and take the best care of yourself you can. I am overweight, but otherwise healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

Because the story of these drugs matches the story of many other pharmaceutical regulatory failures almost exactly, and it is frustrating to see. Many of us in DC know a lot about regulations and health care and it’s like groundhog’s day. Also it’s an important cautionary tale to keep in mind whenever any of us are prescribed any mediation. You have to ask: what are the risks, what are the benefits, is the dosage correct, what are the alternatives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

You’re so awesome and amazing. You’re so much better than all of us morally corrupt folks who have to rely on drugs like Ozempic to finally lose some weight after struggling with diets, restricting food, and exercising religiously FOR DECADES. We should all be in awe of your self control while the rest of us are just inferior and lazy.

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You really have no idea what you’re talking about. You ate and drank too much during the pandemic. And now you’re not even overweight. Let me guess: You went from a size 4 to a 10 and have worked your ass off to get back to a 6. Go you!!! Come back when this has been a struggle for decades. You dismiss the “food noise” because you’ve never experienced it.

My guess is that you are someone who thinks people are just making up their depression and should get over themselves because you’ve just been sad a day or two here and there.

This isn’t a drug for people who overate a little bit during the pandemic. Thi

On the contrary, in the last 12 years I have lost two children, my identical twin sister, and my father. I know depression, trust me. I struggle with anxiety daily, including thinking about food and alcohol a lot. I don't think suppressing thoughts about food is healthy. You don't have to be so angry at people--who you don't even know--because we have a difference of opinion. I never said anything at all about the "morality" of these drugs. I said that starving yourself because these drugs suppress your thoughts about food is not healthy. It's just not. But please, do try to keep "guessing" all about me.

No, ma’am. You are making moral judgments about people who can’t just do what you’re doing: You’re telling others simply deal with the “food noise” and stop binge eating. Guess what? They can’t. You are judging others because they’re not as good as you who’s doing it without drugs.

Yes, I am angry at people like you who judge others that have real issues with losing weight. You continue to support this narrative that people who struggle to lose weight just aren’t trying hard enough. The research around these drugs has finally allowed people to forgive themselves for all the self-hate around their efforts with weight loss. There is so much more going on than just restricting calories.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious: any of you on here defending Ozempic who aren't taking it?

I’m not taking it and have no plans to do so. And I’m repulsed by the “I am not overweight, but let me tell you with my vast authority that you are losing weight wrong, you lazy fatty” poster.

People who see thinness as a sign of moral superiority find semaglutide distressing because it threatens their belief system. Assuming that it must have some terrible drawback and must not be healthy is a symptom of how entrenched their thin=virtuous thinking is.

Sure, all drugs have side effects, and some people may not be able to tolerate some drugs. But you know what else has health effects? Being overweight and being obese. People should be able to make informed decisions and beyond that, not be concern-trolled.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

Because the story of these drugs matches the story of many other pharmaceutical regulatory failures almost exactly, and it is frustrating to see. Many of us in DC know a lot about regulations and health care and it’s like groundhog’s day. Also it’s an important cautionary tale to keep in mind whenever any of us are prescribed any mediation. You have to ask: what are the risks, what are the benefits, is the dosage correct, what are the alternatives.

If you aren’t on it, how do you know these conversations aren’t being had? You’re comparing this basically to the opioid epidemic, and it’s frankly offensive. These drugs have been around for a decade and there aren’t semaglutide zombies wandering DC streets or breaking in to pharmacies to get semaglutide.

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No, it doesn’t make me second guess my decision. The potential side effects are well known. Other than a little constipation in the beginning I didn’t have them. I get my shots weekly at the doctors office and every week they ask about side effects. The issue is with people who aren’t monitored, or who continue to take the drugs when it clearly isn’t the right fit for them. That’s not me so I am not worried.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious: any of you on here defending Ozempic who aren't taking it?

I’m not taking it and have no plans to do so. And I’m repulsed by the “I am not overweight, but let me tell you with my vast authority that you are losing weight wrong, you lazy fatty” poster.

People who see thinness as a sign of moral superiority find semaglutide distressing because it threatens their belief system. Assuming that it must have some terrible drawback and must not be healthy is a symptom of how entrenched their thin=virtuous thinking is.

Sure, all drugs have side effects, and some people may not be able to tolerate some drugs. But you know what else has health effects? Being overweight and being obese. People should be able to make informed decisions and beyond that, not be concern-trolled.

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I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I was also scared off by all the online talk of side effects as well and delayed taking the meds for months as a result. But here's the thing--as with any drug, if you start getting unwanted side effects, you tell your doctor and they will tell you to stop, reduce the dosage, or switch you to something else. When I finally got on Wegovy--under a doctor's care--I experienced zero side effects. I don't think I'm the only one. The best side effect besides weight loss after decades? A steep drop in bp (I had hypertension previously) and a huge improvement in my blood lipid panel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I was also scared off by all the online talk of side effects as well and delayed taking the meds for months as a result. But here's the thing--as with any drug, if you start getting unwanted side effects, you tell your doctor and they will tell you to stop, reduce the dosage, or switch you to something else. When I finally got on Wegovy--under a doctor's care--I experienced zero side effects. I don't think I'm the only one. The best side effect besides weight loss after decades? A steep drop in bp (I had hypertension previously) and a huge improvement in my blood lipid panel.

Exactly. The health risks of being overweight/obese are significant and Ozempic has worked for me without side effects. I am no longer prediabetic and am in much better physical shape in terms of ability to exercise.

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Most American are stuffing themselves with cancer, diabetes, obesity, and heart disease- causing foods all day, from infancy. Why isn’t anyone trying to get puffs or goldfish or Doritos or sods or juice or doughnuts banned? Or get all sugar and processed foods out of our hospitals, child care centers, and schools?

Semaglutide helps you avoid eating all the crap served to Americans 24-7. I think eating all the junk is a lot more harmful than small infusions of a hormone that helps you eat less and eat more healthfully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

So tired of people who are "almost overweight" thinking they know anything about chronic obesity and the people who have tried every weight loss plan ever, for decades.

I wish you could get an rx for MYOB.

DP. I think these meds are an amazing innovation for people with chronic obesity and diabetes. The problem is the trend of people who don’t need them getting them. That means the risk-benefit profile doesn’t add up. As well, the companies and doctors are not disclosing the risks well enough. There should be a LOT more gatekeeping for these meds.

I don't think you understand what percentage of our population is currently diabetic, obese, or prediabetic and/or metabolic disorders.
As far as pharm goes, everyone needs to read their medical inserts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

Everyone that makes a valid argument is a troll you angry beeyatcg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

So, I wasn't too sure what the 'food noise' was, UNTIL I started Wegovy and the noise stopped within 3 days...It was like-oh, THAT'S what that was!

No one should be starving while using a weight loss drug. Semaglutide isn't an appetite suppressant, so if one is starving-it's not because of that.

Anyhow, the lawsuits have not made me second guess using Semaglutide, because I am not having side effects. I actually went on it spurred by both my weight and high cholesterol. I am not able to tolerate statins (after trying several) so tried this approach-and my cholesterol has improved considerably. But I'm not suing the statin makers over the side effects I had!