Semaglutide: Do the weight loss lawsuits make you second-guess, trying Semaglutide weight loss drugs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

I commend you for this! As the old adage goes “it took you time to put it on, it’ll take time to get it off” regarding the weight. I’m similar to you in that I am taking stock of owning my choices and behaviors (and while fun in the moment) overconsumption of sugar, alcohol and processed foods have taken their toll. I don’t count calories and try to steer clear of above mentioned things we know are wrecking our health and bodies. I incorporate cardio, strength and rest appropriate for my age. I fight the internal food chatter just like everyone else and some days I win, some days I lose. But I refuse to let the pharmaceutical industry bait me in to one more drug that will promise the moon and do who knows what to my body for the long haul. I also find it a bit said that all of these people consuming it for vanity or by convincing themselves they are right on the edge of needing it to be causing hardships for those that really need it. This sounds harsh but for a lot of people they need discipline and get off their a**es and quiet the “food noise” by taking ownership of their own health.

Do you even hear yourself? You’re “taking stock [and] owning [your] choices” whereas other people “need discipline and [to] get off their a**es”? Your smug ignorance is unbearable.

Make your own medical choices and expend less energy sneering at others’ moral “failings”. Your desperate need to judge others for losing weight The Wrong Way is pure pathology. Are you afraid that if you can’t prove your superiority by showing that you’re doing this The Right Way, there won’t be anything valuable about you?

Signed, someone who is not on semaglutide but who doesn’t have moral delusions about pharmaceutical industry and has seen these drugs effect positive change in people’s lives

[Anonymous]

I don't need it, but like any other drug would weigh the pros and cons.

The lawsuits are reports of awful side effects would make me hesitant if I needed it.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2024/01/13/lifestyle/woman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17052415478137&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F01%2F13%2Flifestyle%2Fwoman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit%2F

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't need it, but like any other drug would weigh the pros and cons.

The lawsuits are reports of awful side effects would make me hesitant if I needed it.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2024/01/13/lifestyle/woman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17052415478137&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F01%2F13%2Flifestyle%2Fwoman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit%2F

NY Post Article

Woman suffers ‘life-threatening bowel injury,’ will have diarrhea forever after using Ozempic: lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I haven’t read the rest of the thread. I assume is is filled with the usual angry white women who are incandescent with rage over the existence of GPLP-1 agonists because they experience the idea that weight could be managed with medication as a grave narcissistic injury? I don’t have the energy to wade through their furious screeching.

However, some facts: litigation is typical in the US after the introduction of new drugs, particularly new drugs with widespread use. It is also expected that as drug use grows, some side effects will be discovered. These drugs have been around for some time and used successfully for diabetics, however, and seem to be the most successful on a class of obese people who resemble diabetics, so I imagine the side effects will be similar. But we will see. The law firm in this case isn’t a very respected one, and my guess is this is a cash grab more than anything.

Also I’m not on Ozempic (glancing up I see someone asked that). I don’t need it, either. I have very little patience for the psychologically damaged people who are irrationally angry about this class of drugs, however.

I read almost the entire thread, and I just don't see where anybody who questions the use of these drugs is angry. Help me understand your misperception, and why legitimate questions make you so angry. Especially when you claim you don't use them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I haven’t read the rest of the thread. I assume is is filled with the usual angry white women who are incandescent with rage over the existence of GPLP-1 agonists because they experience the idea that weight could be managed with medication as a grave narcissistic injury? I don’t have the energy to wade through their furious screeching.

However, some facts: litigation is typical in the US after the introduction of new drugs, particularly new drugs with widespread use. It is also expected that as drug use grows, some side effects will be discovered. These drugs have been around for some time and used successfully for diabetics, however, and seem to be the most successful on a class of obese people who resemble diabetics, so I imagine the side effects will be similar. But we will see. The law firm in this case isn’t a very respected one, and my guess is this is a cash grab more than anything.

Also I’m not on Ozempic (glancing up I see someone asked that). I don’t need it, either. I have very little patience for the psychologically damaged people who are irrationally angry about this class of drugs, however.

I read almost the entire thread, and I just don't see where anybody who questions the use of these drugs is angry. Help me understand your misperception, and why legitimate questions make you so angry. Especially when you claim you don't use them.

Eh, it’s not just this thread. There have been endless threads on DCUM from angry women, mostly white, lashing out about Ozempic. It’s enough of a pattern that Jeff commented about it in his blog once.

Plus, the existence of this thread itself is a giveaway. There aren’t threads like this for other classes of drugs with worse and more dangerous side effects. The angry obsession is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need it, but like any other drug would weigh the pros and cons.

The lawsuits are reports of awful side effects would make me hesitant if I needed it.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2024/01/13/lifestyle/woman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17052415478137&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F01%2F13%2Flifestyle%2Fwoman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit%2F

NY Post Article

Woman suffers ‘life-threatening bowel injury,’ will have diarrhea forever after using Ozempic: lawsuit

Says the plaintiff attorney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

A dear friend experienced projectile vomiting. No thanks.

Oh well yes, it can definitely cause vomiting. If vomiting is a no go for you, don’t try it honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

You’re so awesome and amazing. You’re so much better than all of us morally corrupt folks who have to rely on drugs like Ozempic to finally lose some weight after struggling with diets, restricting food, and exercising religiously FOR DECADES. We should all be in awe of your self control while the rest of us are just inferior and lazy.

🤦🏻‍♀️

You really have no idea what you’re talking about. You ate and drank too much during the pandemic. And now you’re not even overweight. Let me guess: You went from a size 4 to a 10 and have worked your ass off to get back to a 6. Go you!!! Come back when this has been a struggle for decades. You dismiss the “food noise” because you’ve never experienced it.

My guess is that you are someone who thinks people are just making up their depression and should get over themselves because you’ve just been sad a day or two here and there.

This isn’t a drug for people who overate a little bit during the pandemic. Thi

On the contrary, in the last 12 years I have lost two children, my identical twin sister, and my father. I know depression, trust me. I struggle with anxiety daily, including thinking about food and alcohol a lot. I don't think suppressing thoughts about food is healthy. You don't have to be so angry at people--who you don't even know--because we have a difference of opinion. I never said anything at all about the "morality" of these drugs. I said that starving yourself because these drugs suppress your thoughts about food is not healthy. It's just not. But please, do try to keep "guessing" all about me.

"It's just not." What do you even know with your definitive statement. Please bring the science. It's not recommended to starve yourself on GLP-1 agonists. It's to be able to eat a healthy diet in a calorie deficit.

Sorry for your losses, truly. That sounds very difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I haven’t read the rest of the thread. I assume is is filled with the usual angry white women who are incandescent with rage over the existence of GPLP-1 agonists because they experience the idea that weight could be managed with medication as a grave narcissistic injury? I don’t have the energy to wade through their furious screeching.

However, some facts: litigation is typical in the US after the introduction of new drugs, particularly new drugs with widespread use. It is also expected that as drug use grows, some side effects will be discovered. These drugs have been around for some time and used successfully for diabetics, however, and seem to be the most successful on a class of obese people who resemble diabetics, so I imagine the side effects will be similar. But we will see. The law firm in this case isn’t a very respected one, and my guess is this is a cash grab more than anything.

Also I’m not on Ozempic (glancing up I see someone asked that). I don’t need it, either. I have very little patience for the psychologically damaged people who are irrationally angry about this class of drugs, however.

I read almost the entire thread, and I just don't see where anybody who questions the use of these drugs is angry. Help me understand your misperception, and why legitimate questions make you so angry. Especially when you claim you don't use them.

DP who has read the thread, and nobody can make you see what you don't want to see. What I see is a bunch of posts from people who don't take these drugs (or need them, it seems) saying that people are starving themselves, that people need to get off their asses, and that it's better to be overweight than take meds. All of those comments are unhinged.

What I don't see in this thread are "legitimate questions" being asked. In fact I see no questions being asked.

Instead I see a lot of jumping to conclusions about patients not weighing the risks, as if only the anti-med PPs are capable of doing so. I see nobody asking if the patients taking this drug are under the care of a doctor, and if so what risks they've been informed of. I see nobody asking whether it was easy or hard to actually get an Rx, or whether the patient is obese, or what medical issues they had because of obesity and whether those are resolved now. Basically, a complete lack of interest in the experience of people actually taking the medicine.

[Anonymous]

No. I have a responsible doctor, no side effects, and it’s actually good for my heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

A dear friend experienced projectile vomiting. No thanks.

Oh well yes, it can definitely cause vomiting. If vomiting is a no go for you, don’t try it honestly.

I took Tamiflu a few months ago and threw up. By this logic, if the poster is my friend, then they shouldn’t take it because vomiting can be a side effect for some.

—Ozempic user for over a year who has never thrown up or even felt nauseous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I haven’t read the rest of the thread. I assume is is filled with the usual angry white women who are incandescent with rage over the existence of GPLP-1 agonists because they experience the idea that weight could be managed with medication as a grave narcissistic injury? I don’t have the energy to wade through their furious screeching.

However, some facts: litigation is typical in the US after the introduction of new drugs, particularly new drugs with widespread use. It is also expected that as drug use grows, some side effects will be discovered. These drugs have been around for some time and used successfully for diabetics, however, and seem to be the most successful on a class of obese people who resemble diabetics, so I imagine the side effects will be similar. But we will see. The law firm in this case isn’t a very respected one, and my guess is this is a cash grab more than anything.

Also I’m not on Ozempic (glancing up I see someone asked that). I don’t need it, either. I have very little patience for the psychologically damaged people who are irrationally angry about this class of drugs, however.

I’m not on these drugs, and thankfully don’t need them. I have posted in support on this thread because my mom is on ozempic, and I’m thrilled she’s had zero side effects. So I’m quite “pro” and trying to understand WTAF your personal damage is to post something so goddamned hateful. I know plenty of POC who are suspicious as hell of these drugs when they shouldn’t be, IMO; the skepticism and criticism isn’t all white women at all, and the cultural pressures on thinness being a virtue weren’t ever only dictated by all-powerful women to Americans at large. Come on.

[Anonymous]

why is anyone bringing up race and gender? please just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

I commend you for this! As the old adage goes “it took you time to put it on, it’ll take time to get it off” regarding the weight. I’m similar to you in that I am taking stock of owning my choices and behaviors (and while fun in the moment) overconsumption of sugar, alcohol and processed foods have taken their toll. I don’t count calories and try to steer clear of above mentioned things we know are wrecking our health and bodies. I incorporate cardio, strength and rest appropriate for my age. I fight the internal food chatter just like everyone else and some days I win, some days I lose. But I refuse to let the pharmaceutical industry bait me in to one more drug that will promise the moon and do who knows what to my body for the long haul. I also find it a bit said that all of these people consuming it for vanity or by convincing themselves they are right on the edge of needing it to be causing hardships for those that really need it. This sounds harsh but for a lot of people they need discipline and get off their a**es and quiet the “food noise” by taking ownership of their own health.

Do you even hear yourself? You’re “taking stock [and] owning [your] choices” whereas other people “need discipline and [to] get off their a**es”? Your smug ignorance is unbearable.

Make your own medical choices and expend less energy sneering at others’ moral “failings”. Your desperate need to judge others for losing weight The Wrong Way is pure pathology. Are you afraid that if you can’t prove your superiority by showing that you’re doing this The Right Way, there won’t be anything valuable about you?

Signed, someone who is not on semaglutide but who doesn’t have moral delusions about pharmaceutical industry and has seen these drugs effect positive change in people’s lives

Thank you. Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need it, but like any other drug would weigh the pros and cons.

The lawsuits are reports of awful side effects would make me hesitant if I needed it.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2024/01/13/lifestyle/woman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17052415478137&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F01%2F13%2Flifestyle%2Fwoman-suffers-life-threatening-bowel-injury-from-ozempic-suit%2F

NY Post Article

Woman suffers ‘life-threatening bowel injury,’ will have diarrhea forever after using Ozempic: lawsuit

Says the plaintiff attorney.

Yes, and her colon surgeon.

According to the suit, the woman was diagnosed with a “life-threatening bowel injury” after using Ozempic, prompting surgeons to subsequently perform an eight-hour operation in the hopes of repairing her colon.

While she managed to survive the scary medical episode, she was said to have been told by doctors that she will be in pain “for the rest of her life’ and “will never have a solid bowel movement again.”