Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh God, another weekly "let's bash the Ivies" thread.

Someone is on a mission out there. Quite tiresome and I don't even have a kid at an ivy.

[Anonymous]

This too shall pass. By the time the students being admitted now are alums no one will remember any of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This too shall pass. By the time the students being admitted now are alums no one will remember any of this.

Nope. The emperor has no clothes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh God, another weekly "let's bash the Ivies" thread.

Someone is on a mission out there. Quite tiresome and I don't even have a kid at an ivy.

+1

It is tiresome. We get it - Harvard is shit and Yale is in decline. Princeton is a darling which baffles me because they are just as woke and have the same issues as HY yet somehow people choose to look the other way because of their strength in STEM?!?!?

Let's move on. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh God, another weekly "let's bash the Ivies" thread.

Someone is on a mission out there. Quite tiresome and I don't even have a kid at an ivy.

+1

It is tiresome. We get it - Harvard is shit and Yale is in decline. Princeton is a darling which baffles me because they are just as woke and have the same issues as HY yet somehow people choose to look the other way because of their strength in STEM?!?!?

Let's move on. Seriously.

You don't have to participate if this doesn't interest you. Your participation here is not mandatory.

[Anonymous]

I have no skin in this game, but I think one thing that has been absolutely fascinating to witness is the sheer gloating and immense satisfaction people are getting at witnessing Harvard's supposed fall from grace.

If this had happened at a random state school or SLAC, nobody would care.

[Anonymous]

No one really cares about random state schools or SLACs in general unless their children go there or they are really good at football or basketball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not like students are sitting around choosing between Harvard and Stanford. Harvard and Stanford are choosing between them.

Harvard won't suffer from a MAGA boycott.

Exactly. The vast majority of people could never get into an Ivy anyway and MAGAs do not go to college (the Republican hypocrites who went to Other like DeSantis, Hawley, Stefanik, Trump, Vance,etc. told them not to).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.

Stanford had its share of scandals including Stanford President resigning for data falsifications.

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Anonymous wrote:Know someone who recently decided between Stanford, Harvard, and mit. So yes, this is happening.

Impressive and highly unusual. What was their profile like? GPA? Public or private high? SAT/ACT? ECs?

Not unusual in my circles.

BS if you’re in the DC area. No area school has kids who get to decide from Stanford, Harvard, and MIT, not even TJ.

Blair did. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, among others.

PP again. Kid was Asian.

Must be trans recruited athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no skin in this game, but I think one thing that has been absolutely fascinating to witness is the sheer gloating and immense satisfaction people are getting at witnessing Harvard's supposed fall from grace.

If this had happened at a random state school or SLAC, nobody would care.

Harvard is wickedly crooked and needs to be put in its place for awhile. Get rid of legacy and all other crooked money making schemes related to admissions and get back to admitting students on the basis of merit and stop meddling in politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.

Ironically, Yale is not as far left as perceived and actually in the middle compared to the other Ivies. Yes, there is a sizable leftist community yet far less leftist than many other schools, e.g., Harvard, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Berkley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Alissa Heinerscheid and Claudine Gay took well known brands and through gross incompetence destroyed them overnight.

Perhaps the boards that appointed them did that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Alissa Heinerscheid and Claudine Gay took well known brands and through gross incompetence destroyed them overnight.

Perhaps the boards that appointed them did that.

+1. I'm a Harvard alum and want to see the board replaced. Its election is an inside popularity job. It failed first when it proposed Gay (she was unqualified) and then again when issues of plagiarism first were brought to its attention in October. The Corporation should have appointed an independent board but did not and tried to excuse it. Then Gay did nothing when the first riots ensued. She did nothing. It took her days to get out in front of the issue. Then she and the board all went to lavish vacations (Gay went to Rome) over the holidays while leaving the institution in an uproar. See the article on the failure of the Harvard Corp this past weekend in the Wall Street Journal. Harvard needs to start over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.

Ironically, Yale is not as far left as perceived and actually in the middle compared to the other Ivies. Yes, there is a sizable leftist community yet far less leftist than many other schools, e.g., Harvard, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Berkley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, etc.

+1

Thank you. Someone who knows what they are talking about.