The Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins verdict is a legal travest

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:the fact that there are people like OP who side with a huge bureaucratic organization over a family/patient is astonishing to me.


Happens ALL the time. My DH is a Medical Malpractice attorney. The reality is that winning a MedMal case is HARD because the vast majority of people don’t want to believe that doctors and hospitals make mistakes, operate poorly, etc.
Anonymous
Taking bets.. is OP a paralegal for the insurance company that has to pay this?

That doctor is a monster. I’m glad the jury saw it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If a hospital causes that kind of trauma to a family, it should be sued. They destroyed that family and drove the mom advocating for her daughter to her death.

Nothing can repair the loss and trauma of a family after being damaged by the bureaucratic might of the medical institution.

I 100% support the family.


It's too bad the family didn't go after the responsible hospital employees. Sounds like they deserve getting taken to the cleaners.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If hit the genetic lotto and get a child with cerebral palsy, you can get $40Million from the Doctor's insurance fundm


Yes, how “lucky” to have a perfectly healthy fetus you spent 9 months gestating become so damaged during a botched delivery that they can’t walk, eat, or ever function on their own. How “lucky” that you get to have your dreams of dancing at your daughter’s wedding transformed into changing your adult daughter’s diapers when you’re 80, knowing the second you die she will be institutionalized and in all likelihood raped or abused for the rest of her short life. Sign me up for that lottery!

Did you know that nurses used to close women’s legs during delivery if the doctor was busy elsewhere? Did you know that this is exactly what happened to the Kennedy’s daughter, Rosemary? Now you know.
Anonymous
Don’t these huge financial awards usually get changed to smaller amounts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If hit the genetic lotto and get a child with cerebral palsy, you can get $40Million from the Doctor's insurance fundm


Cerebral palsy isn't a genetic condition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They took the 10 year old daughter away from the family and isolated her, and the mother ended up killing herself. This case is a bit more egregious than the ones you’re comparing it to.


This is the part that is not sympathetic. The mother was clearly crazy. This fact makes me much more sympathetic to the hospital - the family was incapable of properly caring for the girl.
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Anonymous wrote:If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. I am a hospital nurse and I agree that people are sue happy in the US. People use it as a threat all the time when they don't get what they want in the hospital. And it can be stressful for all involved on the receiving end. But--having worked in health care--I think you are naive about how hospitals handle bad or negligent health care providers. Ask most hospital nurses-they all know at least one surgeon they would never let touch a family member because they have messed up so many times. But the hospitals look the other way despite concerns being raised bc it costs them money. A lot of hospitals settle out of court. It is actually not as easy as people make it seem to sue--there needs to be evidence of harm and dereliction of duty.


OP here. If a surgeon is indeed messing up so many times that they shouldn't be practicing, then the hospital is required to fire the surgeon. Moreover, the state will investigate and take away their license if necessary. Hospitals are over-regulated as it is. If you couldn't do your job right, the state would take away your license too. That's how it works.


Except it doesn’t consistently work that way and meanwhile people are suffering needlessly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Taking bets.. is OP a paralegal for the insurance company that has to pay this?

That doctor is a monster. I’m glad the jury saw it.


My bet is OP is married to a doctor who has been sued for malpractice or should be. She’s hanging on to the idea that if he was really awful, he would be fired and have his license yanked. Until then, she’ll believe his maimed patients are just greedy.
Anonymous
LOL that hospitals never mess up. My uncle fell off a ladder and needed knee surgery. They operated on the wrong knee. Like, he went in scheduled to have an operation on his left knee and they operated on his uninjured, perfectly fine, right knee. They make mistakes in simple, straightforward cases. Of course they make mistakes in more complicated cases. I don't agree with suing someone as a punishment, but a hospitals mistakes can cost victims and their families a lot of money, and have long-term effects. Why shouldn't the hospital pay?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t these huge financial awards usually get changed to smaller amounts?


Yes they do. $211m in compensatory damages and $50m in punitive damages. The hospital is appealing. Punitive damages often du get reduced. The lawyers were most likely hired on a contingency. If they work more and the award gets reduced on appeal, you see the incentives.
Anonymous
Whatever they got they deserved 3x more. The hospital’s conduct in that case was atrocious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Whatever they got they deserved 3x more. The hospital’s conduct in that case was atrocious.


Are you basing your opinion on the TV show/documentary? Are you aware that documentaries are not 100% objective and unbiased? Or 100% accurate?
Anonymous
I was so thrilled the Kowalskis won their suit. I cried right along with Maya and Kyle as the verdict was read. They were finally vindicated!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.


You need to educate yourself significantly. You sound very ignorant.
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