The Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins verdict is a legal travest

[Anonymous]

If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.

[Anonymous]

Didn't they get $211 million?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. I am a hospital nurse and I agree that people are sue happy in the US. People use it as a threat all the time when they don't get what they want in the hospital. And it can be stressful for all involved on the receiving end. But--having worked in health care--I think you are naive about how hospitals handle bad or negligent health care providers. Ask most hospital nurses-they all know at least one surgeon they would never let touch a family member because they have messed up so many times. But the hospitals look the other way despite concerns being raised bc it costs them money. A lot of hospitals settle out of court. It is actually not as easy as people make it seem to sue--there needs to be evidence of harm and dereliction of duty.

[Anonymous]

I just watched the documentary. What a hearbreaking story. Yes, I understand CPS having to investigate. But two doctors who had treated Maya collaborated the mother's story of the diagnosis and recommended treatment. But Johns Hopkins didn't agree. During the investigation, the Kowalski's lawyers discovered that the doctors at Johns Hopkins did treat Maya with the same medicine her original doctor had prescribed - so they must have agreed with the diagnosis of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and knew that the course of treatment worked. I normally don't agree with suing, but in this case it was 100% warranted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just watched the documentary. What a hearbreaking story. Yes, I understand CPS having to investigate. But two doctors who had treated Maya collaborated the mother's story of the diagnosis and recommended treatment. But Johns Hopkins didn't agree. During the investigation, the Kowalski's lawyers discovered that the doctors at Johns Hopkins did treat Maya with the same medicine her original doctor had prescribed - so they must have agreed with the diagnosis of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and knew that the course of treatment worked. I normally don't agree with suing, but in this case it was 100% warranted.

More than that, the hospital actually billed her insurance under the diagnosis of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome. There was never any alternative diagnosis other than Munchausen by proxy which obviously got ruled out pretty quick as she was still sick despite total separation from the family. The professional conduct of the medical doctors involved was sick as f&ck too. They celebrated the suicide of her Mother.

[Anonymous]

I was jumping for joy. That was one of the saddest most tragic stories I have ever read/seen.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was like 22 million?

[Anonymous]

They took the 10 year old daughter away from the family and isolated her, and the mother ended up killing herself. This case is a bit more egregious than the ones you’re comparing it to.

[Anonymous]

OP, you need to better educate yourself on these issues. Payments for medical negligence cases comprise roughly 2.4 percent of all healthcare costs. Yet, preventable medical errors are the fourth leading cause of death in the US, after heart disease, cancer, and Covid.

When a family suffers a medical negligence event, the future costs can be huge. Why should families bear the burden of the injuries? What if a person is a paraplegic after negligence? What if a person can never work again and support their family? What if a child needs a lifetime of medical care? A simple medical board complaint won’t do anything to help victims and make up for the losses.

Medical malpractice cases make our healthcare system safer. They are the only true check on the system.

Rising healthcare costs and insurance premiums are the result of the insurance greed and other systemic issues in healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. I am a hospital nurse and I agree that people are sue happy in the US. People use it as a threat all the time when they don't get what they want in the hospital. And it can be stressful for all involved on the receiving end. But--having worked in health care--I think you are naive about how hospitals handle bad or negligent health care providers. Ask most hospital nurses-they all know at least one surgeon they would never let touch a family member because they have messed up so many times. But the hospitals look the other way despite concerns being raised bc it costs them money. A lot of hospitals settle out of court. It is actually not as easy as people make it seem to sue--there needs to be evidence of harm and dereliction of duty.

OP here. If a surgeon is indeed messing up so many times that they shouldn't be practicing, then the hospital is required to fire the surgeon. Moreover, the state will investigate and take away their license if necessary. Hospitals are over-regulated as it is. If you couldn't do your job right, the state would take away your license too. That's how it works.

[Anonymous]

you got issues OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you need to better educate yourself on these issues. Payments for medical negligence cases comprise roughly 2.4 percent of all healthcare costs. Yet, preventable medical errors are the fourth leading cause of death in the US, after heart disease, cancer, and Covid.

When a family suffers a medical negligence event, the future costs can be huge. Why should families bear the burden of the injuries? What if a person is a paraplegic after negligence? What if a person can never work again and support their family? What if a child needs a lifetime of medical care? A simple medical board complaint won’t do anything to help victims and make up for the losses.

Medical malpractice cases make our healthcare system safer. They are the only true check on the system.

Rising healthcare costs and insurance premiums are the result of the insurance greed and other systemic issues in healthcare.

OP here. To my knowledge, hospitals have very strict protocols about preventing medical errors. For instance when nurses give medications, they need to check the 5 rights first. Right[b] patient, [b]right[b] medication, [b]right[b] time, [b]right[b] dose and [b]right[b] route. All those prevention protocols are required by law. Medical malpractice cases don't make our healthcare system safer. They make people afraid to become doctors because they are afraid of being sued.

The other thing is people sue for plenty of other ridiculus reasons. A couple of years, my sister decided the school the district wanted to place my niece was not a good school. My niece goes to a private state-funded school for autistic kids. While she didn't sue she did get an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. Who is she, a non-educator, to decide that a school still allowed to be open is not a good school?

I googled my sister's name and found a YouTube video of her in a zoom meeting hosted by a local non-profit. She told her story about getting an attorney and encourages other parents to "advocate" for their child. "Advocate" in this context means to disregard the advice of trained professionals and push for what you want until the school or district provides it. Imagine if diabetics told their doctors "well no doc, I know my body best and I'm telling you this dose of insulin is not right for me." They'd all be dead. Yet in the special needs parent world this behavior is often encouraged and praised. I also found out that federal law requires schools to pay for attorney fees for special-ed related cases if the parents win. I don't want my tax dollars to go to parents who [b]choose to hire an attorney to get what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you got issues OP.

OP here. I'm the one who has issues, and not money hungry people who are seeking $211 million from a hospital or who use attorneys to bully school districts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone has been following the "Take Care of Maya" trial, the jury awarded the Kowalskis a whooping 7 million against Johns Hopkins. This is such a legal travesty.

When I was in middle school in the early 2000s, my classmate lost her little brother. The entire class made cards that said sorry for your loss, etc. I overheard conversations between teachers and paraprofessionals. They said to each other "if I were the parents, I would sue the hospital" or something along those lines several times.

I do understand it's hard to lose a child, but that doesn't automatically mean the hospital is at fault. If you think the hospital indeed did something wrong, you should be filing a complaint with the state medical board, not suing. They will do an investigation and decide if the hospital is at fault and take appropriate action, including revoking licenses if necessary. There is absolutely no need to sue a hospital ever. It raises healthcare costs for others and of course malpractice insurance, so no one will want to become a doctor because they are afraid some crazy person will sue them.

This is one of the reasons we have a teacher shortage. A teacher does something a parent doesn't like, a parent raises hell left and right with the administration or even sue the district for millions. Just look at the Savanna Redding case. The parent sued after the school strip-searched on suspicion she has drugs. If they had not strip-searched her and someone died of the drugs another parent would sue the school. Damned of you do, damned if you don't.

And here a family got $7 million just because they don't like a licensed child abuse pediatrics specialist doctor claimed Beata had Munchausen's. Now parents with Munchausen's can get $7 million by claiming licensed Hippocratic sworn doctors are fraudsters.

My sister did this. She decided the school the district wanted to put my autistic niece in is a bad school, so she got an attorney to bully the district into placing my niece in a different school. She calls this "advocating" for her child. My parents are Polish just like the Kowalskis and adwokat means lawyer in Polish and other languages. The last thing you should be doing is suing others.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. I am a hospital nurse and I agree that people are sue happy in the US. People use it as a threat all the time when they don't get what they want in the hospital. And it can be stressful for all involved on the receiving end. But--having worked in health care--I think you are naive about how hospitals handle bad or negligent health care providers. Ask most hospital nurses-they all know at least one surgeon they would never let touch a family member because they have messed up so many times. But the hospitals look the other way despite concerns being raised bc it costs them money. A lot of hospitals settle out of court. It is actually not as easy as people make it seem to sue--there needs to be evidence of harm and dereliction of duty.

OP here. If a surgeon is indeed messing up so many times that they shouldn't be practicing, then the hospital is required to fire the surgeon. Moreover, the state will investigate and take away their license if necessary. Hospitals are over-regulated as it is. If you couldn't do your job right, the state would take away your license too. That's how it works.

Really? Then please explain the situation with Dr. Death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you got issues OP.

OP here. I'm the one who has issues, and not money hungry people who are seeking $211 million from a hospital or who use attorneys to bully school districts?

yes you have a bizarre vendetta against your sister