Israel situation is going to hand Rs elections for a while

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.
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Are people actually upset about a resolution? They don’t do anything. Passing a resolution because you don’t like what protestors said is unAmerican.

People have the right to protest, and the Republican attempts at trying to chip away at that right are downright scary. DeSantis is talking about punishing people protesting on Florida college campuses. He had the nerve to call it “material support.”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.


+1 I am very glad that biden seems supportive but I worry about the Democratic Party in another two generations. That over twenty democrats couldn’t support a simple statement that there shouldn’t be anti semitism in colleges is worrying.
Anonymous
Republican Party has their set of KKK and white nationalists. Sure, they hate all minorities and Jews.


But democrats have a large and growing group of antisemitism and have actual reps in congress who are antisemitic calling for the destruction of Israel. Also this group of reps and group of socialist is grown in rapidly.

So looking at the future, im more scared if the. Antismeitic Dems and growing influence than a small minority of Republican nationalists that have not changed the narrative in 60 years for me being a Jew here.

I never felt unsafe in college in NY from a white nationalist. But yeah, swing these kids get harassed, threatened, chased down by liberal socialist student and pro-Hamas islamists, scares the hell out of me. Never thought I’d see that.

Remember, in Gaza, being gay is punishable by death. So when i see college campuses that are so DEI prod to be inclusive, these protesters are cheering for a culture and people that punish gays by throwing them off roofs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.


+1 I am very glad that biden seems supportive but I worry about the Democratic Party in another two generations. That over twenty democrats couldn’t support a simple statement that there shouldn’t be anti semitism in colleges is worrying.

And the new Nazis marching for the GOP… this escapes comment why?
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*neo. Thanks, phone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.


+1 I am very glad that biden seems supportive but I worry about the Democratic Party in another two generations. That over twenty democrats couldn’t support a simple statement that there shouldn’t be anti semitism in colleges is worrying.

And the new Nazis marching for the GOP… this escapes comment why?


It doesn’t escape comments. I assure you I was commenting on that at the time. The antisemitism on the right and left are now equally threatening.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.


+1 I am very glad that biden seems supportive but I worry about the Democratic Party in another two generations. That over twenty democrats couldn’t support a simple statement that there shouldn’t be anti semitism in colleges is worrying.

And the new Nazis marching for the GOP… this escapes comment why?


It doesn’t escape comments. I assure you I was commenting on that at the time. The antisemitism on the right and left are now equally threatening.

Frankly I expected better of you. Both sides, really? You’re going to throw your support to the GOP even though they only want Jewish people in Israel so you can be burnt up in the end times.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.


I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.


I agreed with you a month ago. But there is a difference between being critical of Israeli politics, and what is currently happening on the left. Rashida tlaib just tweeted a video of people chanting from the river to the sea- saying it’s “an aspirational call.” It’s an aspirational call to annihilate israel and Jewish people. There is a growing squad comprised of overt anti semites like her. Biden is not an anti semite. But the next generation of democrats are increasingly so. I will vote for biden. But what’s happening in the house amongst democrats, and what will eventually hit the senate, is gravely concerning.


+1 I am very glad that biden seems supportive but I worry about the Democratic Party in another two generations. That over twenty democrats couldn’t support a simple statement that there shouldn’t be anti semitism in colleges is worrying.

And the new Nazis marching for the GOP… this escapes comment why?


It doesn’t escape comments. I assure you I was commenting on that at the time. The antisemitism on the right and left are now equally threatening.


If you want sane democrats to remain so, maybe stop supporting the squad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seeing the antisemitism from a large group of the “squad” and liberal groups on campus are making me look at voting for Republicans.

All those hijab wearing protesters are not republicans. Def democrat voters and I don’t want to be associated with people who want to kill me…


The fringe left, sure.
Look at Core MAGAs, like the Evangelicals running the House and Trump, who will be the GOP nominee.

Big difference between fringe left and mainstream GOP.

Vote for them at your peril.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I was a liberal Democrat about five years ago, maybe less. It was a combination of the party changing and me changing. I think you'll find that just like most Democrats are not AOC, most Republicans aren't Lauren Boebert. In other words, if you occupied a centrist position as a Democrat, you'll find that being a centrist republican isn't that far of a reach.


Big difference...the Squad is fringe left, with no leadership. GOP MAGAs are the party now. There is no such thing as a centrist GOP.

The party was too far right for even Liz Cheney or Rep. Buck. Think about that.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm Jewish and went to services tonight. Was talking to a friend who wants to put together a "cheat sheet" on how to vote in the school board election. We were talking about how the one guy is very anti-trans and she basically said - I don't care about anything except Israel right now, I'm putting pro-choice/pro-life to the side, I'm now a one-issue voter about Israel and anti-semitism.

Guessing that feeling will become more and more prevalent the longer things drag on and lots of one-issue voters are going to change their issue.



So lemmi get this straight. Israel underwent the worst attack with massacre or Jewish people since its creation, under the watch or a corrupted right wing PM who clearly totally blundered the defense (including moving troops and money and attention to the WB supporting a settlement enterprise that contributes to inflame relations with the Palestinians). The Dem administration reacted promptly providing support, moving troops and naval support, the President himself flew to Israel and publicly embraced Netanhyau (who never missed an opportunity to slight him before even during the Obama admn) and gave a great speech of support, secretary of state flew multiple times. Biden is staunchly supporting Israel on the world stage, even as the situation or civilians in Gaza becomes more desperate and countries start pulling away from the initial support. Biden himself declared that he was a zionist, which is something pretty strong and far beyond just supporting a country attacked. His administration promptly proposed a aid package that would been approved long ago but for three weeks of mess in the House created by republicans and then some idiotic political shenanigans by the new Speaker, who went against even republicans in the Senate. The Biden admn in general has put fighting antisemitism on its agenda, see also the role or Harris’ husband who is Jewish. On the other side you have a guy (because the GOP now is Trump) who first thing said that it was Netanyhau’s fault and that Hezbollah was smart. When neonazi marched in Charlottville chanting “Jews will not replace us” Trump is the one who said there were good people in both sides. And after al this, you want to vote GOP and and an anti- trans in the school board because of Israel?



That’s not the point.

People are focusing on what a couple dozen Dems just did (or didn’t do) on the Hill. Keep up.


Those Dems oppose further blowing up the budget and oppose using Israel as a chip. People concerned should be supporting that position.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seeing the antisemitism from a large group of the “squad” and liberal groups on campus are making me look at voting for Republicans.

All those hijab wearing protesters are not republicans. Def democrat voters and I don’t want to be associated with people who want to kill me…


The fringe left, sure.
Look at Core MAGAs, like the Evangelicals running the House and Trump, who will be the GOP nominee.

Big difference between fringe left and mainstream GOP.

Vote for them at your peril.


The fringe left isn’t so fringe anymore. Democrats need them for a house majority. I told myself the same thing in 2018, 2020 and 2022. But this past month has changed the way I see things. I am loyal to biden, I have always liked him, rooted for him even before he announced he would run against trump and will throw my support and dollars against his next campaign. But I’m represented by a member of the squad in the house and I will not ever vote for them again. I have never voted for a Republican in my life. Honestly not sure what I’ll do- but I assure you my congressperson will never again see my vote and many ppl in my district feel similarly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Jewish and went to services tonight. Was talking to a friend who wants to put together a "cheat sheet" on how to vote in the school board election. We were talking about how the one guy is very anti-trans and she basically said - I don't care about anything except Israel right now, I'm putting pro-choice/pro-life to the side, I'm now a one-issue voter about Israel and anti-semitism.

Guessing that feeling will become more and more prevalent the longer things drag on and lots of one-issue voters are going to change their issue.




I think the pro-trans, pro-Hamas, pro-terrorism vote is pretty small. Muslims are about 1 percent of the population. Maybe that matters in Michigan, but generally it doesn't. And it's not like most Muslims are enthusiastic supporters of Hamas.

If people want to throw away the pro-choice vote, well, they're idiots. We've seen where that went.


Michigan UAW resolution will be more impactful in terms of supporting Biden and the Dems than any Arab votes in the state.
Anonymous
Maybe support someone like Haley who is more to center of Trump and actually should have a say on abortion as she has a uterus.
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