Israel situation is going to hand Rs elections for a while

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12707147/Over-TWENTY-Democrats-including-AOC-Rashida-Tlaib-vote-against-resolution-condeming-surge-antisemitism-college-campuses-wake-Hamas-terrorist-attack.html

If Republicans are standing up against this nonsense while dozens of Dems aren’t, it isn’t surprising to see Jewish Dems jump ship.

As a Dem, it’s worrisome.

And it’s just getting started. Hezbollah is eager to fight, and they are far better equipped than Hamas. They are also fixating on America…not just Israel and Jewish people, but all Americans.

Republicans tend to do well during military crises. They are pro-military and go all in on the tough talk. If the average American is fearful, R’s tend to benefit.

This is why it’s worthwhile for right-wingers to let terror attacks happen every so often. Yeah yeah yeah Israelis say they’re mad at Netanyahu but he’s already offloading blame. People forgot that Bush43, like Netanyahu, blew off warning after warning. They get so scared that they vote GOP/Likud/UnitedRussia because right-wing governments spew tons of expensive bombs that make people feel (but not be) safe. Meanwhile all these retaliations against terror attacks are good for business for defense contractors, weapons manufacturers and other right-wingers. So the terror attacks really wind up a win for the right-wing governments even if they blew it in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

Republicans are far worse. Or did Trump / Kushner actually succeed at making peace in the middle east we just don't know it yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm Jewish and went to services tonight. Was talking to a friend who wants to put together a "cheat sheet" on how to vote in the school board election. We were talking about how the one guy is very anti-trans and she basically said - I don't care about anything except Israel right now, I'm putting pro-choice/pro-life to the side, I'm now a one-issue voter about Israel and anti-semitism.

Guessing that feeling will become more and more prevalent the longer things drag on and lots of one-issue voters are going to change their issue.

I think the pro-trans, pro-Hamas, pro-terrorism vote is pretty small. Muslims are about 1 percent of the population. Maybe that matters in Michigan, but generally it doesn't. And it's not like most Muslims are enthusiastic supporters of Hamas.

If people want to throw away the pro-choice vote, well, they're idiots. We've seen where that went.

[Anonymous]

When you throw the first punch and don’t knock out a superior opponent the fight never ends well for the one that throws the first punch.

October 7th, was not Israel’s 9/11, it was Israel’s December 7th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Republicans are far worse. Or did Trump / Kushner actually succeed at making peace in the middle east we just don't know it yet.

I agree - I’m just trying to understand the rationale that puts all of that out of memory. Feels like pretty important context IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect all the Dems who just voted against the antisemitism legislation (stemming from the college protests that seem to be led by liberals) are prompting this response and this thread.

You think all the congressional democrats immediately come here to sway this obscure set of people? Okay.

I think PP meant that certain progressive congressional democrats voting against recent bills to address antisemitism and another to condemn are causing the dialogue about voting… not that congress members are posting on dcum.

Btw I’m another Jewish democrat who’s represented by one of the squad. I will never vote for my rep again. I will be active in getting a more moderate dem to primary them in 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

Republicans are not a suitable alternative. Extremism in both parties is a major issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

[Anonymous]

No one at my synagogue will be voting for the “very fine people.” We know perfectly well why the evangelicals support Israel and it’s not because they love Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I was a liberal Democrat about five years ago, maybe less. It was a combination of the party changing and me changing. I think you'll find that just like most Democrats are not AOC, most Republicans aren't Lauren Boebert. In other words, if you occupied a centrist position as a Democrat, you'll find that being a centrist republican isn't that far of a reach.

I can’t separate Republicans from their anti-abortion position.

There's a lot more to life than abortion. The vast majority of women will never get an abortion. Half the angry abortion protesters you see seem to be women who haven't figured out you need to have sex first to get pregnant. At this point I have simply stopped caring about abortion and never vote on it. But how people or certain parties have responded to something genuinely evil is definitely making me think long and hard.

I care about abortion but feel much the same.
I'll never forget all the 45+ lesbians freaking out on social media about needing an IUD immediately, after the Roe decision.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Seeing the antisemitism from a large group of the “squad” and liberal groups on campus are making me look at voting for Republicans.

All those hijab wearing protesters are not republicans. Def democrat voters and I don’t want to be associated with people who want to kill me…
Quotes, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

Republicans are not a suitable alternative. Extremism in both parties is a major issue.

BoThSiDeS

[Anonymous]

If you think Republicans will go to bat for Israel, you don’t know anything about the current Republican Party.

From the latest Quinnipiac poll:

American voters watching the cauldron of the Middle East reaching a furious boiling point are fearful the war, so far confined to Israel and Gaza, will metastasize to include U.S. troops,

The degree of concern varies by party. Fifty-two percent of Republicans say they are very concerned, while 30 percent of Democrats say they are very concerned, and 47 percent of independents say they are very concerned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t it Republican extremists who chanted “Jews will not replace us” through college towns? Whose politicians are dining with and associating with actual Nazis?

I understand why Democrat extremists are pushing away Jewish voters I just don’t understand why Republicans are an acceptable alternative? Especially while Democrats in office are consistently supporting Israel.

Genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

I think this crowd care about supporting zionism and not stopping real antisemitism.

That seems to be the real deal.

Because anyone who is truly wiling to shunt aside all else for Israel isn’t making very sound choices.