opinions for CS - Wisconsin, UIUC, Purdue, Michigan, UNC or perhaps UVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't need a luxury name brand for CS. BTW, I work in IT and my DH is at a FAANG. Not a chance in hell we are reccomending our son who is a senior in high school do major in CS. The market is insanely over saturated right now and with so so so many in college right now for CS it's not getting any better. My company in particular really is hot on the Applied Mathematics kids with MBAs.

AI and machine learning is the wave of the future. That's part of CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stats?
My DC from magnet had 4.9 GPA, 1580 SAT, 10+ AP, all 5s. Had something like 62 credits going into college.

CS major, cisgender, white male, zero hooks, - rejected at UIUC, and wait listed at Mich.

CS major is very very competitive even for high stats students. So, unless your DC is a DEI or has some other hook, some of those colleges will be a reach.

Having stated that, I would look at Vtech over UVA. My DC was considering VTech but UVA wasn't even on their radar.

Except that 80% of all students change their major at least once. UVA is by far the better school for that

[Anonymous]

uiuc is a top target school but as others have said, extremely difficult to get in into cs in engineering school. the cs+ majors in arts&science, while also difficult, may be the wise backdoor.

The other schools on list, except purdue and umich, are not really target schools.

CS at entry level appears heavily saturated. Going to a target school may help differentiate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats?
My DC from magnet had 4.9 GPA, 1580 SAT, 10+ AP, all 5s. Had something like 62 credits going into college.

CS major, cisgender, white male, zero hooks, - rejected at UIUC, and wait listed at Mich.

CS major is very very competitive even for high stats students. So, unless your DC is a DEI or has some other hook, some of those colleges will be a reach.

Having stated that, I would look at Vtech over UVA. My DC was considering VTech but UVA wasn't even on their radar.

Except that 80% of all students change their major at least once. UVA is by far the better school for that

ok, but a CS major is most likely not going to go into public policy. They will stay within a STEM major, most likely, and VTech is still better for most STEM majors than UVA.

We don't live in VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2023 kid with similar stats (35 ACT, 4.85 GPA, 13 AP mostly 5s, varsity athlete, club leadership etc). Ultimately at UMD and very happy, better to be 10 miles from home than at a lesser school and paying more.

Schools he considered: UIUC (rejected), GT (waitlist), CWRU (waitlist), Cornell (waitlist), CMU (rejected). Peers with other majors and similar/lesser stats were accepted. Of course no way to judge soft factors like essays and recommendations.

Purdue would be one to look at along with Michigan. Not sure UVA or UNC that well regarded for CS.

+10 Agree!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2023 kid with similar stats (35 ACT, 4.85 GPA, 13 AP mostly 5s, varsity athlete, club leadership etc). Ultimately at UMD and very happy, better to be 10 miles from home than at a lesser school and paying more.

Schools he considered: UIUC (rejected), GT (waitlist), CWRU (waitlist), Cornell (waitlist), CMU (rejected). Peers with other majors and similar/lesser stats were accepted. Of course no way to judge soft factors like essays and recommendations.

Purdue would be one to look at along with Michigan. Not sure UVA or UNC that well regarded for CS.

+10 Agree!!

Honestly, how can a kid with these stats be rejected/waitlisted from all those schools? Blows my mind. Looks like they lost out. My goodness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't need a luxury name brand for CS. BTW, I work in IT and my DH is at a FAANG. Not a chance in hell we are reccomending our son who is a senior in high school do major in CS. The market is insanely over saturated right now and with so so so many in college right now for CS it's not getting any better. My company in particular really is hot on the Applied Mathematics kids with MBAs.

AI and machine learning is the wave of the future. That's part of CS.

Yea and this is why we like applied math majors above all else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2023 kid with similar stats (35 ACT, 4.85 GPA, 13 AP mostly 5s, varsity athlete, club leadership etc). Ultimately at UMD and very happy, better to be 10 miles from home than at a lesser school and paying more.

Schools he considered: UIUC (rejected), GT (waitlist), CWRU (waitlist), Cornell (waitlist), CMU (rejected). Peers with other majors and similar/lesser stats were accepted. Of course no way to judge soft factors like essays and recommendations.

Purdue would be one to look at along with Michigan. Not sure UVA or UNC that well regarded for CS.

+10 Agree!!

Honestly, how can a kid with these stats be rejected/waitlisted from all those schools? Blows my mind. Looks like they lost out. My goodness.

Due to hyper-inflation with both the tests (SAT/ACT) and grades so many will have ridiculous gpas of 4.99 and 1550+ SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2023 kid with similar stats (35 ACT, 4.85 GPA, 13 AP mostly 5s, varsity athlete, club leadership etc). Ultimately at UMD and very happy, better to be 10 miles from home than at a lesser school and paying more.

Schools he considered: UIUC (rejected), GT (waitlist), CWRU (waitlist), Cornell (waitlist), CMU (rejected). Peers with other majors and similar/lesser stats were accepted. Of course no way to judge soft factors like essays and recommendations.

Purdue would be one to look at along with Michigan. Not sure UVA or UNC that well regarded for CS.

+10 Agree!!

Honestly, how can a kid with these stats be rejected/waitlisted from all those schools? Blows my mind. Looks like they lost out. My goodness.

They did indeed miss out. Go Terps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2023 kid with similar stats (35 ACT, 4.85 GPA, 13 AP mostly 5s, varsity athlete, club leadership etc). Ultimately at UMD and very happy, better to be 10 miles from home than at a lesser school and paying more.

Schools he considered: UIUC (rejected), GT (waitlist), CWRU (waitlist), Cornell (waitlist), CMU (rejected). Peers with other majors and similar/lesser stats were accepted. Of course no way to judge soft factors like essays and recommendations.

Purdue would be one to look at along with Michigan. Not sure UVA or UNC that well regarded for CS.

+10 Agree!!

Honestly, how can a kid with these stats be rejected/waitlisted from all those schools? Blows my mind. Looks like they lost out. My goodness.

Due to hyper-inflation with both the tests (SAT/ACT) and grades so many will have ridiculous gpas of 4.99 and 1550+ SAT.

GPA inflation is real, but only 1% of SAT test takers receive a score of 1550 or higher (99.X% score lower). Yes, that's still a lot of kids, but there is a limit on the number of test takers who can get such a score, whereas there is no such limit on high GPAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't need a luxury name brand for CS. BTW, I work in IT and my DH is at a FAANG. Not a chance in hell we are reccomending our son who is a senior in high school do major in CS. The market is insanely over saturated right now and with so so so many in college right now for CS it's not getting any better. My company in particular really is hot on the Applied Mathematics kids with MBAs.

AI and machine learning is the wave of the future. That's part of CS.

Yea and this is why we like applied math majors above all else.

AI / machine learning is a subset of CS majors. My DC is majoring in CS with a focus on ML.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean U of I? No one says UIUC.

- Chicagoan

They’re DCUM, they don’t know

It's Urbana Champaign, not Chicago. We know.

DCUM thinks Chicago is nearby tho

[Anonymous]

OP, I would not consider Wisconsin a safety anymore. OOS admission rate has plummeted in the last few years.

Also, they have created a new school with new building to house CS, data science and information science. It is very unique.

https://cdis.wisc.edu/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean U of I? No one says UIUC.

- Chicagoan

They’re DCUM, they don’t know

It's Urbana Champaign, not Chicago. We know.

DCUM thinks Chicago is nearby tho

I think UIUC is a new thing. I'm an old-timer Chicagoan and it was NEVER called UIUC. It was always U of I.

My nephew from Silicon Valley went there for CS and graduated a few years ago. When he told me he had gotten into UIUC I had no idea what he was talking about. He said everyone calls it UIUC now. I think it's an OOS thing.

[Anonymous]

Michigan, followed by UIUC, Purdue and Wisconsin.

UIUC is stronger but Michigan has better brand cachet, is better overall and has just as good CS recruitment as UIUC.

Both UNC and UVA have very weak CS departments. They are good options if your son might switch to liberal arts or business though.