Congressman carjacked at gunpoint in Washington DC

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rep. Craig beaten in an elevator.The Rand Paul staffer. Now this.

No one is safe.



It was so much more acceptable when certain people were safe than other people weren’t.


I’m PP and have been robbed this year. We need the privileged to recognize they are not safe either for there to be any change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


You want a Congress that can't tie its own shoes to be in charge of DC? Have you been paying any attention at all to the Hill? If you think Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and James Comer are the adults, you are in for a rude awakening.


Were you here for the first control board?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Financial_Control_Board

It was supported by Eleanor Holmes Norton and helped stabilize the city and set the stage for a comeback, including getting the city needed financial resources from feds. Member of a board would be appointed, it would not be those members of Congress.



The Control Board was for financial reasons; city was bankrupting itself. Not the situation at all now. How would they justify a Control Board?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rep. Craig beaten in an elevator.The Rand Paul staffer. Now this.

No one is safe.



It was so much more acceptable when certain people were safe than other people weren’t.


I’m PP and have been robbed this year. We need the privileged to recognize they are not safe either for there to be any change.


But you didn’t care until it affected you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They need to call in the national guard


Oh sure. Their ideology messes it up, and then the National Guard should come in and clean their mess. No. Not just no. Hell, no.

They wanted their cashless bail and other nonsense. Now live with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


I live and work in DC and am as invested in you in this issue if not more so, but this is total nonsense courtesy of Tucker Carlson. No serious observer who actually cares enough about crime and justice in DC to understand the facts would write such a thing. For those with the integrity to acknowledge that they may not be as well educated about what actually happened as they would like to be, this is about as good a summary as I’ve seen:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

And if you sneer at that article because it’s in The New Yorker, you are exactly the type of person who should be reading it.


That article is slanted. Bottom line is the bill would have resulted in more crime and less penalties. I like New Yorker. I’m not a fox new idiot. But bottom line is the bill, for example, would have ensured jury trials for all misdemeanors on an already overburden court system. Even if they did hire more staff, it would still be a catalyst for the court to basically ignore quality of life crimes. I get social justice, but really, lowering penalties for crime detracts from social equity.


The proposal for jury trials didn’t make a lot of sense in the current context and there were a few other provisions in the bill that were unnecessary, but characterizing it as a “weak on crime bill” when it increased various penalties and simplified the process of prosecuting many crimes is straight-up silly. Any argument that we are safer today because it didn’t pass is not well grounded in facts and logic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rep. Craig beaten in an elevator.The Rand Paul staffer. Now this.

No one is safe.



It was so much more acceptable when certain people were safe than other people weren’t.


I’m PP and have been robbed this year. We need the privileged to recognize they are not safe either for there to be any change.


But you didn’t care until it affected you.


If true, so what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


I live and work in DC and am as invested in you in this issue if not more so, but this is total nonsense courtesy of Tucker Carlson. No serious observer who actually cares enough about crime and justice in DC to understand the facts would write such a thing. For those with the integrity to acknowledge that they may not be as well educated about what actually happened as they would like to be, this is about as good a summary as I’ve seen:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

And if you sneer at that article because it’s in The New Yorker, you are exactly the type of person who should be reading it.


What we need is to ignore the loud contingent of SJWs and non-incarceration policy pushing non-profits who yell loudly at council meetings and lobby to foist these lax policies on the city. It’s not fking working. Stop.


How about you put aside these ridiculous labels and focus on the actual substance? We can get a lot more done when we’re focused on tangible policy proposals than when we’re slinging insults at one another.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


You want a Congress that can't tie its own shoes to be in charge of DC? Have you been paying any attention at all to the Hill? If you think Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and James Comer are the adults, you are in for a rude awakening.


I’ll raise you AOC, Omar, Pressley and the Fire Alarm clown. But, there are decent members on both sides who are infinitely better than what we have as a mayor and council.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


I live and work in DC and am as invested in you in this issue if not more so, but this is total nonsense courtesy of Tucker Carlson. No serious observer who actually cares enough about crime and justice in DC to understand the facts would write such a thing. For those with the integrity to acknowledge that they may not be as well educated about what actually happened as they would like to be, this is about as good a summary as I’ve seen:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

And if you sneer at that article because it’s in The New Yorker, you are exactly the type of person who should be reading it.


What we need is to ignore the loud contingent of SJWs and non-incarceration policy pushing non-profits who yell loudly at council meetings and lobby to foist these lax policies on the city. It’s not fking working. Stop.


This is what DID work.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/dc/control/controlqa.htm#:~:text=As%20its%20nickname%20suggests%2C%20the%20financial%20control%20board,hundreds%20of%20millions%20of%20dollars%20in%20federal%20aide.

The CRE fiscal disaster still has not been completely felt. DC lacks control over federal prosecutors, judges and cannot shift funds to courts. Once again DC is in a dire and worsening position re: money and crime and it's beyond local officials to fix, they have no control over the key fed LE pieces.

No, disagree Jeff, Republican Congresspeople are not going to give up jobs to play city administrators. They were appointed. Eleanor Holmes Norton supported the 1st control board. When she expressed concern a while back that the Council was opening the door to 2.0 I thought she was being dramatic, to be honest. Now I get that she read all the signs, again. If we don't get a control board the combo of CRE implosion, shrinking tax base and shrinking tourism is going to spiral in a way that will be very difficult to pull out of, based on finances alone. Crime is just the cherry on top, re: both finances, to be crass, and quality of life.

Every month MPD shrinks, recruiting cannot keep pace with retirements and departures. It is what it is.

People talk about Bowser, I'm not a huge fan, but she has NO control over CJS, not fed appointed USAO that no papered up to 67% of cases over several administrations (although both Bowser and Council WERE aware and said nothing), no control over federally appointed judges, no control over federally funded court budgets. Basic order is needed both to keep residents, attract new ones and attract tourists. Congress has both the purse and the oversight over DOJ that is needed to get the CJS functioning properly. The 67% dipped after USAO Graves was summoned to the Hill for a DC Oversight Hearing, imagine if there were regular DOJ Oversight Hearings with metrics and benchmarks?

A whole generation of kids is getting shot and killed and not diverted from crime, while not attending school and gaining even basic literacy. In the 90s crime was lower during the school day, now, DC has lost control there too and is attempting to hide the truancy numbers. It's the kids who deserve a better future than this weird situation of effusive rhetoric while soaring numbers of black kids are gunned down in the street.

A control board would be very newsworthy and would help re: public perception. In the 90s we did not have remote work, the CRE income was more solid. People still went downtown to work, even before the 1993 carjacking bill. Now, they may move elsewhere in DMV or elsewhere entirely. DC can't keep hemorrhaging revenue and tourist dollars without the crisis becoming dire.

The 911 call center has declined from its former not great performance standard. Used to be that people called CCFR if at all possible in an emergency if you were anywhere they might come. When my kid had anaphylactic allergies, the ped suggested it, DC did not yet have epi pens in ambulances. Even Mendelson recently talked about a personal long hold for 911 and then they may send help to the wrong quadrant of the city...

My prediction, now, or later, control board 2.0 is inevitable. It led to so many positives for the city and fundamentals of functioning, not to mention federal $$$. The current city government lacks the resources and the will to turn things around. The financial picture is pretty daunting and there is no real grappling with it at all by Council. Imagine if there were not the budgetary checks and balances put in place during the control board era.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


You want a Congress that can't tie its own shoes to be in charge of DC? Have you been paying any attention at all to the Hill? If you think Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and James Comer are the adults, you are in for a rude awakening.


I’ll raise you AOC, Omar, Pressley and the Fire Alarm clown. But, there are decent members on both sides who are infinitely better than what we have as a mayor and council.


And plenty of NBA coaches are better than those coaching my kid’s JV team. The point is what exactly?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is desperate for tourism dollars, so incredibly short sighted in everything they do.

This is the same calendar year the Council passed such a weak on crime bill that it had to be stopped by Congress and a Democratic president.

We need another control board. With the looming CRE implosion and a tax base that is dwindling, we need help with both finances and crime and adults who understand the link between the 2.


You want a Congress that can't tie its own shoes to be in charge of DC? Have you been paying any attention at all to the Hill? If you think Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and James Comer are the adults, you are in for a rude awakening.


I’ll raise you AOC, Omar, Pressley and the Fire Alarm clown. But, there are decent members on both sides who are infinitely better than what we have as a mayor and council.


The control board was NOT staffed by sitting members of Congress. If you were not here, read up.

It also brought a lot of needed federal funds to DC, money that is urgently needed as CRE implosion is beginning to be felt. It would also send a pr signal of change to help hold and attract residents and tourists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to call in the national guard


Sorry but dumb, knee jerk, platitude. The teen girls murdered the Uber Eats driver basically at the feet of National Guard, did not help him a bit. They come, they go, then what has changed?

What needs to happen imo is a control board 2.0, and vigorous prosecution of both adults and juveniles. Key is repealing some of the recent legislation by the Council written by DC Justice Lab. Also, put vice back in in the neighborhoods and go back to proactive not just reactive work. https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/08/26/why-did-dc-shut-down-its-vice-squads-crime-rate-cathy-lanier/ Congress needs to exercise ongoing oversight of USAO/DOJ to ensure they are actually prosecuting, benchmarks and metrics need to be public. Career staff may need to be bolstered by those who value public safety, not ideology. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/black-prosecutors-dc-gun-cases/index.html

Every month MPD gets smaller. They cannot recruit enough to even match the number leaving or retiring. I am aware of several effective and experienced cops in my district who will be retiring over the next few months.

The 1993 Carjacking Bill is still on the books. If juvenile carve outs were done away with and it was actually charged, for perps of all ages, would be effective immediately, as it was then. https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/laws/10-26

Having a USAO's office from 2017-now that increasingly did not prosecute adults (and yes, Bowser and Council knew) is a big part of how we got here, the other is Nadeau, Allen and the soft on crime juvenile crowd. Terrible for public safety and for the kids who jack all day rather than go to school, are likely to be shot and killed at soaring levels and who may not even have basic literacy or any other options for income. The slap on the wrist revolving door is like a eugenics program given how many black kids are shot and killed, ignore the DC Justice Lab talking points and feel good rhetoric and look at the results!

This will be a watershed moment where a floor is put in the situation or DC spirals at an ever more rapid pace.


Uh oh. Someone knows what they are talking about.
Anonymous
WMATA is another issue where Congress holds the purse and oversight. At a time of increasing crime within the system and stations, when they have to hire shrinking numbers of MPD for OT security, instead of having a more robust approach to safety (both crime and actual maintenance, not faked records) they recently have decided to number the lines, rather than stick with the traditional color coding and spend $$$ for re-doing all the signs. Make any of it make sense.

Safety, real and perceived, on public transit is important for RTO and tourists, both desperately needed sources of revenue. But the spending priorties don't reflect that.

A shrinking MPD cannot be stretched so thin as to bolster WMATA police with planned OT (of course they should still respond to 911 calls), indefinitely. They need to get their own system in order. The fun of changing all the signs may have to wait.
Anonymous
This is entirely a cultural issue. The left and the right is partly to blame but morality starts in the home NO MATTER HOW POOR OR DISADVANTAGED. The state can only do so much (whether incarcerating criminals or increasing the help to disadvantaged communities). Ultimately it is the home where values are inculcated and society’s values reinforced. This is a difficult conversation but must be had because you basically have to challenge an entire culture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is entirely a cultural issue. The left and the right is partly to blame but morality starts in the home NO MATTER HOW POOR OR DISADVANTAGED. The state can only do so much (whether incarcerating criminals or increasing the help to disadvantaged communities). Ultimately it is the home where values are inculcated and society’s values reinforced. This is a difficult conversation but must be had because you basically have to challenge an entire culture.


And the solution to that is what exactly? Taking kids away from irresponsible parents so they can be institutionalized a la Australia’s stolen generation?
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